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Russia’s army is so ineffective it will probably not be able to take much territory in Ukraine for ‘the next several months’, UK intel says
MSN ^ | 12-12 | sbaker@businessinsider

Posted on 12/12/2022 1:33:15 PM PST by dennisw

NATO's head said earlier this month that Russia may want the fighting to slow, seeking a "freeze" in the fighting so it can better prepare for a bigger assault next year.

"What we see now is Russia is actually trying to have some kind of 'freeze' of this war at least for a short period of time so they can regroup, repair, recover," NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg said.

"And then try to launch a bigger offensive next spring."

The UK Ministry of Defence predicted on Monday that Russian forces will not see any big gains over the winter, even as Ukraine said its own attacks would ramp up as the ground freezes.

The British defense ministry said in an intelligence update on Monday that "Russian ground forces are unlikely to make operationally significant advances within the next several months."

It added that Russia is likely still aiming to extend control over all of Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson, with Russian military planners likely aiming to prioritise advancing deeper into Donetsk Oblast.

However, "Russia's strategy is currently unlikely to achieve its objectives: it is highly unlikely that the Russian military is currently able to generate an effective striking force capable of retaking these areas," it said.

Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov said on Sunday that the weather turning freezing would make Ukraine's operations easier by hardening the ground.

He said Ukraine's army will resume "active counteroffensive actions" when the ground freezes and "becomes firmer for easier passage of equipment," CNN reported.

"The weather conditions, the transition from a dry autumn to a not-yet-freezing winter ... we encountered rain and very difficult conditions for attacks from either side."

"Therefore, we are taking advantage of the moment when the ground becomes firmer," Reznikov said, according to CNN.

(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...


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1 posted on 12/12/2022 1:33:15 PM PST by dennisw
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2 posted on 12/12/2022 1:35:04 PM PST by cranked
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Ukraine can really talk a good game, while they starve and freeze in the dark. Groundhog Day—by suppertime Ukraine has won the war. But they wake up the next day and have to start all over again.

Don't worry. Generals Biden, Bill Gates, and George Soros have a "plan". "Trust the plan.®"

3 posted on 12/12/2022 1:40:24 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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“UK Intel” also told us they had videos of Trump directing prostitutes pee on Obama’s hotel bed in Moscow.

I remember Rachel Maddow saying back in 2016 they would be released within 24 hours.

If Russia dropped a nuke on MI6 HQ, it would be a good thing for freedom-loving Americans everywhere.


4 posted on 12/12/2022 1:42:55 PM PST by PGR88
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To: Governor Dinwiddie
"Ukraine has won the war. But they wake up the next day and have to start all over again."

"Ukraine has won the war battle. But they wake up the next day and have to start all over again."

That is how war works. You win one battle, then you get up the next day to fight another one. Win enough battles and you win the war.
5 posted on 12/12/2022 1:44:16 PM PST by Renfrew
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To: cranked

another nicely pre-prepared slick graphic from the Russian Ministry of Disinformation

(won’t fool anybody, of course)


6 posted on 12/12/2022 1:46:09 PM PST by canuck_conservative
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To: PGR88

“UK Intel” is gonna trigger a lot of FReepers. And I don’t mean you PGR, who are knowledgeable.


7 posted on 12/12/2022 1:46:22 PM PST by dennisw ("You don't have to like it. You just have to do it")
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Nazi ‘I am proud of my Nazi grandpa’ Freeland war bond drive coming along how, resident of Canuckistan?

Oh, and since you are in Canuckistan, Merry Non-Denominational Festive Winter Occasion! /s


8 posted on 12/12/2022 1:49:37 PM PST by cranked
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This is terrible! We need to send aid to Russia so they can protect their lands. Ten Billion at a time ought to do it.


9 posted on 12/12/2022 1:51:50 PM PST by BipolarBob (The party never stops until someone calls the cops.)
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Good time for Ukraine to hit the Kremlin


10 posted on 12/12/2022 1:53:48 PM PST by Sunsong
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“UK Intel” is gonna trigger a lot of FReepers.

Christopher Steele was.....UK INTEL!!!!


11 posted on 12/12/2022 1:54:04 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: cranked

Best analysis of the entire situation, by far, no comparison.

Two military history geniuses, (IMHO), in the Army-Navy library.

Colonel Douglas Macgregor interview with Dr. Michael Vlahos, the complete dialogue.

(I’ll be happy to have an intelligent discussion with anybody who has watched the discussion. Brain-dead trolls, no thanks.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIIM043x_FI&t=01s&ab_channel=DouglasMacgregor


12 posted on 12/12/2022 1:55:43 PM PST by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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Yep, have it bookmarked and plan to watch early tomorrow morning when I get up about 12ish midnight or so given my sleeping habits are garbo.


13 posted on 12/12/2022 2:00:45 PM PST by cranked
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To: Travis McGee

“Colonel Douglas Macgregor interview with Dr. Michael Vlahos”

Already watched/listened to the 3 part they did, was solid, as well.


14 posted on 12/12/2022 2:02:22 PM PST by cranked
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To: Travis McGee

What Doug predicted about this war this summer:

“The future of the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions along with the Donbas is decided. Moscow is also likely to secure Kharkov and Odessa”

“Once Ukrainian forces immobilized themselves in static defensive positions inside urban areas and the central Donbas, the Ukrainian position was hopeless. “

“the training and tactical leadership required to conduct complex offensive operations does not exist inside Ukraine’s army”

If you consider this guy a “genius” compared to your own intellect, it doesn’t say much about your mental level.


15 posted on 12/12/2022 2:03:02 PM PST by Renfrew
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To: dennisw

Men, machines, Intel and ammo. Ain’t much left that hasn’t been replaced by NATO.


16 posted on 12/12/2022 2:04:48 PM PST by ARW
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17 posted on 12/12/2022 2:10:04 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: cranked

Well damn, that image is perfect.


18 posted on 12/12/2022 2:10:47 PM PST by wastedyears (The left would kill every single one of us and our families if they knew they could get away with it)
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To: Travis McGee

I posted all three parts of that excellent presentation yesterday. Of course, the ignorant, deceitful trolls immediately jumped in and began claiming that MacGregor is anti-semitic. Posted the same ridiculous post in all three threads.

It is hopeless trying to induce an intelligent discussion on FR these days. As one poster pointed out the trolls immediately try to derail the threads. It’s all they have since the facts are lined up against their misinformed opinions. It goes without saying that they never listen to or read the information.

So I just post useful info to make the civilized, intelligent freepers aware of it. You have to go to sites like Moon of Alabama to get intelligent conversation.


19 posted on 12/12/2022 2:11:35 PM PST by Cathi
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To: canuck_conservative
"another nicely pre-prepared slick graphic from the Russian Ministry of Disinformation
(won’t fool anybody, of course)
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We're lied to constantly by both sides. I would like to live long enough to see an end to it. The war, not the lying, that won't stop.
20 posted on 12/12/2022 2:11:44 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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