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DeSantis 2024 Is a Trap
American Greatness ^ | December 12, 2022 | Dan Gelernter

Posted on 12/16/2022 1:02:54 PM PST by SoConPubbie

Stop trying to take Ron DeSantis away from Florida. Just stop it. I understand the rationale, but it’s wrong. It may be quite reasonable to be jealous of Florida for its governor—the only governor in the nation to win my coveted “competent” rating on every major issue. But before we encourage DeSantis and Donald Trump to have a falling out that splits the party (or, rather, before we let the RINO simps do it at the behest of Democrats and lots of Chinese money), let’s review a few salient points.

First, governors really matter now. The worse Washington gets—and it gets bigger and worse no matter who’s president because the bureaucrats never change—the more important states become. We need to stop thinking of the presidential election as the be-all and end-all of politics. It was never supposed to be that way. States were once so powerful that the federal government had to fight a Civil War to smack them down. States formerly regarded themselves as coequal partners in the nation, not as subservient entities bowing to federal dictates. Whatever else the Civil War achieved, it did immeasurable damage to states’ freedom of action and, by extension, our own.

States have it in their power to undo this damage by protecting their citizens from federal agents who operate outside the law. (Case in point: ATF agents showing up without warrants at peoples’ homes, attempting to entrap gun owners.) But that would require boldness and courage on a level I don’t expect from any governor. Maybe Kari Lake would have done it. But she had her election stolen. DeSantis is the only sitting governor who could conceivably have the strength of purpose to lead a great reawakening of states’ rights. As I say, I don’t expect it. But he’s the only one who could do it—and he won’t do it if he’s busy trying to get himself elected president.

And here’s the other thing about DeSantis. We can call it “the main thing”: DeSantis isn’t going to win in 2024. No Republican is, unless voter fraud is addressed first. That means voting in person, on Election Day, and with a valid picture ID, not voting by mail over the course of a month. If we don’t fix that—and we’re not fixing it—it does not matter who the candidate is: Trump, DeSantis, or any other Republican. None of them have a chance in hell. It has nothing to do with who they are.

I’m going to say this again, simply because far too many “conservative” writers are ignoring it: Trump did not lose in 2020. Republicans did not lose in 2022. If we think we can win with a broader “big-tent” message or with someone who does less mean tweeting, we, in our innocence, are actively helping to destroy this country.

Suppose we focus on candidates as opposed to the procedure of voting and the integrity of the ballot box. In that case, we are giving every crooked politician and bureaucrat in America the only thing they really want: A plausible excuse for Republicans to keep losing. As long as those of us who vote Republican are willing to continue fooling ourselves, Democrats will be only too happy to let us.

Trump, DeSantis—if you attack each other, you are damaging yourselves and us. We love you both, so stop it: DeSantis, wait for 2028. This “we need you in 2024” line is a trap. Trump, support DeSantis as governor. And get back on Twitter while you’re at it. Truth Social is not where it’s at.

If voter fraud is addressed, Trump will win in 2024. And he’ll make an even better president the second time around, because of everything he’s seen and everything we’ve seen since then. DeSantis’ time will come. But right now, we need him in Florida.

If we don’t address voter fraud, it doesn’t matter who the candidate is because democracy in America won’t exist, and your vote won’t matter—just as it hasn’t mattered for two years. How did we get from a prosperous nation and global peace to where we are now? It wasn’t just COVID. It was you. And it was me. Our government denied us the most important right we have—they stole our votes. And we said, “OK, I guess it must have been something we did.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2024; 2024desantis; applepolisher; desantis; election2024; fl; florida; rondesantis; trump; trumpslave; trumpsycophant
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1 posted on 12/16/2022 1:02:54 PM PST by SoConPubbie
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To: SoConPubbie

The left knows that Trump vs. DeSantis is the best way to split the party, and unfortunately, I have a feeling they’re going to succeed. I hope DeSantis doesn’t fall for the banana in the tailpipe.


2 posted on 12/16/2022 1:06:16 PM PST by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: SoConPubbie

Prediction: 200+ posts.


3 posted on 12/16/2022 1:08:39 PM PST by real saxophonist (Hoplophobia will never be in the DSM, because the DSM is written by hoplophobes.)
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To: SoConPubbie
No Republican is, unless voter fraud is addressed first.

Bush and Trump won't do anything to stop voter fraud.

4 posted on 12/16/2022 1:09:43 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: rarestia

I think DeSantis will stay in Florida because he knows the Dep State has everything in place for the Dems never to relinquish the White House.


5 posted on 12/16/2022 1:09:44 PM PST by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: SoConPubbie
In before the Star Wars meme.


6 posted on 12/16/2022 1:11:17 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: SoConPubbie

DeSantis could put all this to rest in 5 minutes if he did what Elise Stefanik did a month ago.


7 posted on 12/16/2022 1:12:02 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: SoConPubbie

Too many on FR are full blown vote DeSantis and don’t know a democrat trap when they see one.


8 posted on 12/16/2022 1:12:28 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: rarestia

DeSantis may already be one of “them”.

FLASHBACK: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Cheered on Federal Jan. 6 Probe, Encouraged Pro-Trump Patriots to be Thrown Behind Bars

https://bigleaguepolitics.com/flashback-florida-gov-ron-desantis-cheered-on-federal-jan-6-probe-encouraged-pro-trump-patriots-to-be-thrown-behind-bars/


9 posted on 12/16/2022 1:13:34 PM PST by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. ~ Psalm 33:12)
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To: nickcarraway

Trump cannot stop voter fraud. Neither can Bush. The states control elections. That makes governors, like DeSantis, extremely important. They are the ones who need to push for voter ID, paper ballots, and limited absentee balloting.


10 posted on 12/16/2022 1:15:22 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Agreed-

This poster has it right.


11 posted on 12/16/2022 1:16:03 PM PST by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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To: Beowulf9

The Democrats are trying to destroy DeSantis, and Republicans are helping them.


12 posted on 12/16/2022 1:17:09 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Beowulf9
Too many on FR are full blown vote DeSantis and don’t know a democrat trap when they see one.

Too many on FR think Trump actually has a path to the White House in 2024.

He doesn't.

13 posted on 12/16/2022 1:18:55 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: SoConPubbie
If we don’t address voter fraud, it doesn’t matter who the candidate is because democracy in America won’t exist, and your vote won’t matter—just as it hasn’t mattered for two years.

How dare you, you Election Denier.</s>

14 posted on 12/16/2022 1:19:11 PM PST by itsahoot (Many Republicans are secretly Democrats, no Democrats are secretly Republicans. Dan Bongino.)
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To: rarestia

Media manipulation. Faux is deep in it.


15 posted on 12/16/2022 1:19:31 PM PST by fretzer
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To: stars & stripes forever
FLASHBACK: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis Cheered on Federal Jan. 6 Probe

Convince me that Shane Treja at BLP and Sundance at The "Conservative" Treehouse aren't the same person.

Anti-DeSantis hit pieces of dubious factual integrity are all they churn out.

16 posted on 12/16/2022 1:21:15 PM PST by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: SoConPubbie
Well there's a neat rhetorical trick. First, give the reason why DeSantis can't win in 2024 and therefore should stay as Governor:

And here’s the other thing about DeSantis. We can call it “the main thing”: DeSantis isn’t going to win in 2024. No Republican is, unless voter fraud is addressed first. If we don’t fix that— and we’re not fixing it — it does not matter who the candidate is: Trump, DeSantis, or any other Republican.

So, DeSantis should run because it is impossible for he or any other Republican to win. But then....

If voter fraud is addressed, Trump will win in 2024. And he’ll make an even better president the second time around....

So I guess their voter fraud may indeed be fixed. And in that case, I think DeSantis still has a much, much better chance of winning than does Trump.

17 posted on 12/16/2022 1:21:42 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Drew68; Beowulf9
Too many on FR think Trump actually has a path to the White House in 2024.

He doesn't.


The 4-year old joins the discussion.
18 posted on 12/16/2022 1:21:42 PM PST by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
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To: nickcarraway

“The Democrats are trying to destroy DeSantis, and Republicans are helping them.”

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It shouldn’t matter, if DeSantis is as good as his Free Republic acolytes say he is, he’ll persevere.

First he’ll be tested by ‘Orange Fire’ in the Republican Primaries.

If achieves that victory he’ll get an even warmer reception in the General Election, where he’ll be taking flak from all angles.


19 posted on 12/16/2022 1:22:57 PM PST by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: SoConPubbie

Agree with everything in this article. The Dems (and most of the RNC)would love nothing more than to have DeSantis knock out Trump in the primary and lose in the rigged general.
Then he would be knocked out of Florida too…..the Deep State/ communists would be dancing a jig.


20 posted on 12/16/2022 1:23:38 PM PST by Greenidgypsy (I loathe the MSM.)
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