Posted on 12/27/2022 6:34:50 AM PST by ChicagoConservative27
I doubt any response would be military in nature - even the use of conventional forces in response could prompt the use of additional nuclear weapons. Once nukes have been used, politicians will be looking for any & every excuse to avoid escalation. Any response would likely be limited to the standard public declarations of outrage...
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The TRUE Necons and warmongers are obviously in the Kremlin in Russia.
After all, lets not reverse the roles here...
America and NATO countries are not ANNEXING foreign countries with brute military violence.
However, Russia is doing that. They always do that! It’s called IMPERIALISM.
“In reality it has about the same explosive power as the Hiroshima nuclear bomb.”
The yield of the Hiroshima bomb was about 15KT. Much smaller-yield weapons now exist. I’ve read estimates as low as ~100 tons.
But it is the “nuclear” part that is the actual threshold.
The word appears to be leaking out that Russia wasn't behind the Nordstream terrorist act after all. If/when that it's ever proven it was a US/UK operation, then Germany might rightfully be upset. Enough to go to war with their current allies? Doubtful, but then again, if Russia were to begin seizing the upper hand in Ukraine, which isn't completely far fetched. I certainly hope none of this is true, but who am I to know, I only know I must prepare for all possibilities.
due to the tremendous power now concentrated in DC, where a few keystrokes there will empty bank accounts, cut off communications, cut off utilities, and soon disable cars from operating.
It would take whole states succeeding, which is what Medvedev predicted, but there are no states anywhere near self sufficient at this point, at least not from attack from the massive federal powers. Dividing the US is the main way how one world government could take control, so I hope it never happens. But, we must consider all possibilities, including nuclear strike on DC. Maybe one that can't be traced back to anyone. Don't rule it out, I'd say.
Do you realize that if a country with nuclear weapons used these weapons against a non-nuclear country without harsh consequences, the system of international relations would collapse? Every country in the world would try to acquire nuclear weapons if possible. Would you like to live in such a world?
.........”The Russians are very capable of backing up that threat”........
There’s now some threads on twitter of Russian photos etc. from their perspective. Also showing their military activity - and equipment both in, on the way and in the works for Ukraine.
I don’t think Russia has any concerns about their capability - even a little.
thanks.
I doubt putin will *allow* Lavrov to retire
maybe when he’s in another country he can make a run for it?
Un huh.
They also have the world’s best tank (T-14) currently no money to develop or use without a tow truck, the world’s best fighter (SU-57) now flown to the Far East.
“What are the Ukrainians supposed to do if Putin wants to destoy them as a nation?”
yes, exactly.
Ukraine is NOT russian. Ukraine was originally settled by Jews, Greeks and Norse Vikings.
putin is a liar and a killer
anyone who believes a rational leader would respond to wind-blown “fallout” by using additional nuclear weapons...
I am not so sure you are correct.
There were biological and chemical labs in Ukraine that the US came in after the separation to help ‘secure’. That can be documented. Like 20 years later they were still open.
Why? Ukraine didn’t need those weapons.
I suspect that the US needed someplace to do research that didn’t violate it’s own laws. Places like Ukraine and China. IE, like Covid 19.
So, if Russia uses one or more battlefield nukes in Ukraine, and NATO limits its response to non-nuclear strikes on Russia (or simply a blockade, etc.), obviously Russia would never use additional nuclear weapons (even though they already used one or more), and there would be no danger of further escalation to a full nuclear exchange. I'm sure NATO leaders view it all as 100% predictable. \sarc
In reality, as I have already noted, most leaders of NATO-member States will likely be looking for reasons to de-escalate, rather than escalate...
Correct analysis of the use of Merkel the DDR borne nazi leftist Socialist who cannot stand the oligarchy of RUSSIA that devolved from the former Soviet Socialist Republic. Merkel’s people in the DDR were on (like nearly 50% of the country) the STASI informant files. They KNEW the KGB Director inside the DDR- one Vladimir Putin.
The Neocons of the mil-industrial perpetual debilitatitng WAR clowns (Bill Kristol a major useless turd of an example) need the “war” to continue. So yes- they did this. But it will not stop the one thing Russia has in abundance- as they did on the Eastern Front slaughtering the Nazis— they have hundreds of millions of cannon fodder trigger pullers, and now.. frozen steppes of Ukraine to drive right over these jokers. But Biden— the SOB is going to kill the Western World to keep his cash flow going... just as demonrats have always done to Dear United States of America— the real Americans that is.
“I doubt any response would be military in nature - even the use of conventional forces in response could prompt the use of additional nuclear weapons. Once nukes have been used, politicians will be looking for any & every excuse to avoid escalation. Any response would likely be limited to the standard public declarations of outrage... “
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NATO has no choice. In case Russia detonate tactical nukes on Ukraine the nuclear fallout drifting over NATO/EU is inevitable. It will respond with conventional military means - as a first step.
Thats why, RUSSIA will never use tactical nukes. They know it would awaken hell all over. The warmongering neocons in the Kremlin don’t want to go that far, they just can’t afford it.
You may want to have a look at how US astronauts got to the ISS over the period of 2009 to 2019. There was No Other Way.
So what? Soyuz is actually a risky piece of Russian old junk. It was great back when the Soviet Union existed, but now is just junk.
“Screw those commie bastards, and screw their wussy little space station.”
Hence the image I posted.
There are plenty of place to do that in the US, with far less risk - there are huge underground military facilities all over the US.
Its just Russian propaganda.
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