Posted on 01/03/2023 10:01:58 PM PST by Az Joe
"Obama promised Putin he could invaded Ukraine in 2912."
"but that’s exactly what happen"
If you want war with the Russians so bad why aren’t you over in Ukraine actually doing something about it?
I noticed my Miss Spelling.
FJM. He was one of the worst.
He gets no kudos from me. Ever.
A thread memorializing this POS makes me sick.
The question arises as to why the U.S. did not get involved in supporting the Ukrainians immediately after the Russian conquest of Crimea, while we did get involved with Libya and Syria. Was Hillary Clinton, more neocon friendly, leaving the Secretary of State position in anticipation of running for President and her replacement by John Kerry the reason? Or was it Obama possibly dealing with Russia on a different basis? Remember that he told a Russian official during his 2012 reelection campaign against McCain that he would be better able to deal with issues after the election. That comment was supposed to be private but was caught on a hot mic.
Dang, are you a time traveler?
Who cares what McCain said.
He is 6’ under and a distant memory.
Juan McLame was a nasty little snake who was always ready to backstab the American people. The creep saved Obamacare which ultimately led to the Scamdemic lockdowns. The only good thing McCain ever did was die.
“The clip shows the former GOP lawmaker for Arizona and one-time Republican presidential nominee taking a swipe at American reluctance to help Ukraine for fear of provoking the Russian leader.”
So the Neocons then ignore the advice (thank you Victoria Neuland) and ‘help Ukraine’ by arming them up enough to ‘cleanse’ their Russian-speaking population in Donbass and Crimea and thereby provoke Russia into defending them.
Seems to me that the ‘American Reluctance’ was EXACTLY the right policy, and many lives could have been saved if we stayed ‘reluctant’.
So, once again, McCain proves how much of an idiot, and how dangerous, he was. Now, we need to get his son, Eyepatch, along with his lover Linda, out of Congress, and the world be a safer, far safer, place.
This line proves you are a liar or incredibly naive.
Obama gave Putin the green light to take Crimea after his 2012 re-election.
Obama CIA was part of toppling the gov't in Ukraine. We have the documents.
The CIA is still on the ground in Ukraine, training and assisting our war against Russia.
For you to believe that the US was absent from everything that happened in Ukraine since 2008 proves you do not understand the situation.
You keep posting lies. Obama administration for two years, starting in 2014 refused to give weapons to Ukraine, until the new Trump administration in 2017 for the first time sent weapons-javelins to Ukraine. So "Neocons...arming them(Ukraine) to cleanse their Russian-speaking population" is complete BS.
U.S. President Barack Obama wants peace negotiations with Russia to run their course before deciding to send “lethal defensive” arms to help Kyiv against the recent attacks by Russian-supplied separatists in eastern Ukraine. Feb 10, 2015
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/wont-arm-ukraine-until-peace-process-finishes-obama-says-after-meeting-with-merkel
“You keep posting lies. Obama administration for two years, starting in 2014 refused to give weapons to Ukraine, until the new Trump administration in 2017 for the first time sent weapons-javelins to Ukraine. “
You keep posting crap that I didn’t state, and then calling it ‘lies’. When did I blame Obama? POINT ME THE POST, please.
I don’t care whether the Neocons tricked Trump rather than Obama, the result was the same - hundreds of thousands dead in Ukraine.
Once again you must LIE to make a point, it’s getting quite sickening here.
So the Neocons then ignore the advice (thank you Victoria Neuland) and ‘help Ukraine’ by arming them up enough to ‘cleanse’ their Russian-speaking population
So tell me when was Nuland in office?
“So tell me when was Nuland in office?”
You go find out, I don’t give a crap, she’s just one of them - the whole State Department is INFESTED with them.
All I know is that it was NEOCON POLICY that has killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, and if you’re happy with that, it’s your problem, not mine.
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