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Germany may transfer 19 Leopard 2A5 tanks to Ukraine
https://greekcitytimes.com ^ | 1/22/23 | gct

Posted on 01/22/2023 4:00:43 AM PST by RomanSoldier19

Germany may transfer 19 Leopard 2A5 tanks to Ukraine, Der Spiegel magazine reported.

Germany is ready to transfer to Ukraine only 19 of the oldest Leopard 2 tanks, which are used in exercises to simulate the enemy, Spiegel writes.

In total, the German military had 312 Leopards in 2 different production series in the spring, the newspaper notes.

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KEYWORDS: germany; leopard; ukraine
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1 posted on 01/22/2023 4:00:43 AM PST by RomanSoldier19
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To: RomanSoldier19
Defense chiefs fail to resolve dispute on tanks for Ukraine

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-politics-military-technology-joint-chiefs-of-staff-lloyd-austin-1b505c88a5a6f331cd482762c62fa29c

2 posted on 01/22/2023 4:11:55 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: RomanSoldier19

Look at the little kid with the helmet on in the turret…

That would be one heck of a Christmas present… a motorized 1/3 (?) scale Tiger Mk I…


3 posted on 01/22/2023 4:14:06 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: NFHale

https://toybuzz.com.au/product/thunder-tank-ride-on-with-working-cannon-and-rotating-turret-24-volt/

4 posted on 01/22/2023 4:19:49 AM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit;“We are your ghosts, in this game played by monkeys, organized by lunatics” )
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To: RomanSoldier19

I’d buy that for myself…almost.


5 posted on 01/22/2023 4:28:07 AM PST by USAF1985 (Joe McCarthy is a hero...he was absolutely, 100% correct! (Let’s go Brandon!))
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To: USAF1985

i know it


6 posted on 01/22/2023 4:30:17 AM PST by RomanSoldier19 (Res ad Triarios venit;“We are your ghosts, in this game played by monkeys, organized by lunatics” )
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7 posted on 01/22/2023 4:31:53 AM PST by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did wha, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: RomanSoldier19

I’d love one of those.


8 posted on 01/22/2023 5:06:33 AM PST by wally_bert (I cannot be sure for certain, but in my personal opinion I am certain that I am not sure.)
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9 posted on 01/22/2023 5:32:59 AM PST by FarCenter
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To: RomanSoldier19

Does it make sense to have 19 units of one kind of tank if you don’t have the maintenance and repair infrastructure to support that type? It seems to me to be a logistics nightmare if you are running numerous different platforms that each require distinct training and support systems.


10 posted on 01/22/2023 5:38:20 AM PST by JewishRighter
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To: NFHale
Here's a close up of the kid:

11 posted on 01/22/2023 5:39:56 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: RomanSoldier19

I hope so. So far, Germany war reluctant to do so and even blocked other countries (e.g. Poland) for giving Leopards to Ukraine.
According to export conditions, nobody can give/sell arms to other countries without the permission of the original manufacturer. And Germany so far have not given that permission to anybody!


12 posted on 01/22/2023 5:55:37 AM PST by AZJeep
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To: PIF

Seeing one of those come down the street would have a certain intimidation value...


13 posted on 01/22/2023 7:02:48 AM PST by null and void (LibWhacker ~ "Thank goodness for bureaucrats." (taken grossly out of context by nully...))
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To: AZJeep

A possible explanation for Germany’s actions on the tank situation is this: Germany has a long memory on how WWII ended. They’re still very afraid of the Russians, and don’t want to antagonize them unnecessarily. By sending 19 of the oldest Leopard tanks, they’re sending two messages.

To the U.S. and other NATO allies, Germany is saying “See, we’re trying to help the effort in Ukraine, you asked for tanks, and we sent not one or two, but nineteen of them!”

To the Russians, Germany is saying “We only sent nineteen tanks, and they’re really crappy anyway.”


14 posted on 01/22/2023 7:50:04 AM PST by Texan Tory (Laissez rouler les bons temps!)
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To: RomanSoldier19

I would invade New Jersey with that…

But I was poor kid… My tank was an old refrigerator box with a cardboard tube, duct taped To the front to simulate the gun


15 posted on 01/22/2023 7:50:56 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: PIF

Re close up:

Apparently, he’s “all growed up” now… Lol


16 posted on 01/22/2023 7:51:46 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: PIF

I’d be standing in the turret singing “Der Panzer Lied” at the top of my lungs… With Robert Shaw saying “sing” in the background…


17 posted on 01/22/2023 7:53:07 AM PST by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: JewishRighter

Probably not, the Leopard’s deployed in Syria were destroyed very easily, lots of them.

“ This was shockingly illustrated in December 2016 when evidence emerged that numerous Leopard 2s had been destroyed in intense fighting over ISIS-held Al-Bab—a fight that Turkish military leaders described as a “trauma,” according to Der Spiegel. A document published online listed ISIS as apparently having destroyed ten of the supposedly invincible Leopard 2s; five reportedly by antitank missiles, two by mines or IEDs, one to rocket or mortar fire, and the others to more ambiguous causes.

These photos confirm the destruction of at least eight. One shows a Leopard 2 apparently knocked out by a suicide VBIED—an armored kamikaze truck packed with explosives. Another had its turret blown clean off. Three Leopard wrecks can be seen around the same hospital near Al-Bab, along with several other Turkish armored vehicles. It appears the vehicles were mostly struck the more lightly protected belly and side armor by IEDs and AT-7 Metis and AT-5 Konkurs antitank missiles….”

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/germany’s-leopard-2-tank-syria-was-beaten-badly-battle-why-78441

As with most of the collective West’s welfare give away, much doesn’t even reach the battle fields, Vlads destroys them in transit. Our M777’s are a good example, 19 have been verified destroyed….

Too little, too late. The Ukies are spent, currently the largest welfare nation on planet Earth.


18 posted on 01/22/2023 7:53:26 AM PST by delta7
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Two Leopards taken out by two Kurdish woman using a Russian Konkurs anti tank weapon…..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YafzmkvVRiI


19 posted on 01/22/2023 8:11:26 AM PST by delta7
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With the myriad of weapons that Ukraine is receiving, it must be a logistical nightmare.


20 posted on 01/22/2023 9:39:24 AM PST by thegagline (Sic semper tyrannis! Goldwater 2024)
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