Posted on 01/23/2023 8:31:31 AM PST by marcusmaximus
Yevgeny Prigozhin, whose Wagner Group of mercenaries has dominated headlines in Ukraine, has reportedly been sidelined by Vladimir Putin after failing to make good on his promises of military gains.
The Institute for the Study of War (ISW) said Prigozhin's "star has begun to set" following his boasts that his forces could capture the Donetsk city of Bakhmut.
The think tank said on Sunday that Putin wanted to see what Prigozhin and his previous commander in Ukraine, General Sergey Surovikin could do after the conventional Russian military had suffered disastrous setbacks.
"Both efforts failed," the ISW said, as Prigozhin's attempts to seize Bakhmut were frustrated and Surovikin's air campaign to inflict suffering on Ukrainian civilians expended "most of Russia's remaining stocks of precision missiles." Around 80 per cent of Prigozhin's 50,000-strong force in Ukraine are reportedly convicts who have been thrown into assault operations around Bakhmut at high cost. Putin was prepared to test how the use of prisoners would play out in the war.
On January 11, Putin appointed Valery Gerasimov, demoting Surovikin, in a move that the ISW said showed the Russian president is putting his trust in "the conventional Russian military once more."
Prigozhin's social media posts, in which he touted his forces' purported gains and disparaged the Russian command in the field, suggested he fancied himself as someone who could be a big player in military affairs. The ISW said "those hopes now seem to have been delusional" with Wagner not getting the expected credit for gains in the town of Soledar, near Bakhmut.
(Excerpt) Read more at newsweek.com ...
Russian Army is Collapsing: Great chaos in Russia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x63S12p3Cf4
We hope every Russian soldier in Ukraine is killed, and
We should stop sending Ukraine money and equipment.
Interesting how our resident GLOBALISTS are making common cause (in propaganda and other things) with their progressive buddies in places such as Newsweek. Are the masks coming off? Just sayin’.
We just did Putin a favor by naming “Wagner Group” as an International Criminal Organization! What will be out payback?
“Around 80 per cent of Prigozhin’s 50,000-strong force in Ukraine are reportedly convicts”
In fairness it would make sense that rough work calls for rough men.
I so trust Newsweek on Putin.
😆
As they are equally harsh on Biden.
TRUST Newsweek.
this is hilarious propaganda!
other trolls will be jealous...
Do they not eat enough dog???
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Your high heel boy Z is having another tough day as uke lines around bakmut may be collapsing!
Ukes evacuated the Kaleeshka area and a town that sounds like Nabisco was captured toward Chssiv Yar where the last remaining supply road exists (and the ukes most likely escape route is closing in). Rus are advancing toward Siversk and captured kosnapolifka.Ukes stretched thin so reinforcing the Zaporiza line will be difficult.
battle lines update below from weeb and mil summary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv8XdQYY9ek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6BQK8QVllM
Cons and criminals make lousy soldiers, not good ones.
How can little Ukraine kill the Russians without support?
Scott Ritter? LOL!
Support is one thing. Endless billions with no accountability is quite another. Stuff like small arms, ammo, drones, MREs, medical supplies, and even MRAPS are fine. But nothing we give them should affect our own readiness.
Life doesn't always imitate art, and vice-versa. The Dirty Dozen had Telly Savalis.
I was responding to your post, if you want Russians killed then you have to give the Ukrainians the tools they need.
Incarcerated men would also be more acceptable as casualties than good men.
I’ve often wondered why the US didn’t empty our prisons and airdrop all of our convicts on Afghanistan instead of sacrificing so many good men and trillions. And for what?
Criminals are not known for being “rough men”, they are the opposite, they tend to laziness, instant gratification, cowardliness, fear of confrontation with “rough men”, fear of anything hard, avoidance of bad weather, and physical discomfort, the criminal life is for those who find a simple daily job too much for them, much less the iron will and discipline, sense of teamwork, and willingness to endure hardship and stay on a mission that one finds in quality troops.
Ever wonder why blacks can be fine athletes but rarely make it as elite troops? There is far more to toughness in the wet and cold and the dark, and the dangerous, than merely being athletic enough to run 10 miles and lift weights.
“”I’ve often wondered why the US didn’t empty our prisons and airdrop all of our convicts on Afghanistan””
To do what, sell stolen goods and open black markets, to set up brothels, rape, rob, and murder, ignore orders, go on patrols and just sit down when out of sight of the base, to retreat instead of fighting to the death for things the sociopath doesn’t care about to lie, cheat, and steal in an organization that deals in guns, food, gasoline, explosives, pensions, vehicles and that depends on honesty, teamwork, and dependability?
To forge supply sheets and hijack our supply trucks, to do what?
I used the word “hope” in my post. Wanting an outcome while not directly facilitating that outcome are not mutually exclusive. But again, I’m fine with certain aid. Just not infinite aid that never actually makes it to the front lines.
I wasn’t worried about any lofty national security objectives. Emptying our prisons and dumping the convicts in Afghanistan INSTEAD of sending our troops there would have saved us a bunch of money.
And a few hundred thousand hardened criminals would have kept the Taliban busy.
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