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1 posted on 01/27/2023 7:38:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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Career planning is what's important. Don't automatically be pro or anti college, pro or anti vocational training, pro or anti STEM, etc.

We should encourage youngsters to be pro career planning, being serious about researching careers that they'd like to do and what they pay. Ask the people already in those careers what it's like in the real world, and ask them what kind of training is good and would make them want to hire you years from now.

That's what I did. And to me it's not genius. It's common sense. There's no college course that teaches initiative.

2 posted on 01/27/2023 7:41:48 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Increasing numbers of white people see “higher education” as a brainwashing scam.


3 posted on 01/27/2023 7:42:25 AM PST by euram (allALL)
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” If you are not becoming an engineer or a doctor or a lawyer, I highly encourage you to drop out. It’s a scam,” Cawthorn said .

To a large extent, Cawthorn is right. But his list is a little short. There are other a handful of other jobs like high-school teacher where they’re not going to let in the door without a bachelor’s degree.


4 posted on 01/27/2023 7:42:28 AM PST by irishjuggler
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I try to advise all decent white males into the trades.
More specifically Electrical Design, Electricians, and Linemen.
One can educate themselves for free their entire lives.


5 posted on 01/27/2023 7:43:01 AM PST by EEGator
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A college degree is worse than useless if it has the word “studies” in its title. Unfortunately, even in STEM the studies people have infected the curricula with their rotting tentacles of the plummeting standards of diversity and inclusion and they are also becoming less than useless.


6 posted on 01/27/2023 7:43:38 AM PST by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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Outside of stem degrees, college is a complete scam and waste of money. Back in the day when there were tens of millions of Boomers competing for jobs, college was a good way to get a leg up on the job competition. Now? College is an outdated leftist bloated scam with no real mission any more. With the baby bust college is irrelevant for getting a job. Waste of money.


8 posted on 01/27/2023 7:47:31 AM PST by Obadiah (The business of America is no longer business, it is war and arms sales.)
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Somewhere along the way people forgot what the purpose of a college education is, particularly a humanities degree like Art History or English Literature.

It is about signaling to the world that your father is so rich that you do not NEED to worry about a career. You do not NEED to go to trade school to learn about how to build bridges. Veblen wrote this in the 1890s and called education one of the most prominent forms of conspicuous consumption.

Why non-rich people get these degrees and then wonder why they cannot find a job is the real tragedy. If you need a job, you need a different degree!


10 posted on 01/27/2023 7:47:48 AM PST by babble-on
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43% isn’t “most.”

49% really isn’t “most” either.


11 posted on 01/27/2023 7:50:07 AM PST by x
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Minority only quotas, lower standards and scholarships.


16 posted on 01/27/2023 7:59:44 AM PST by 2banana (Common ground with islamic terrorists-they want to die for allah and we want to arrange the meeting)
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Us crackers will charge them out the ass to fix their toilets and cars.


17 posted on 01/27/2023 7:59:48 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie
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When you understand the economics of what’s going on here, it’s a terrible indictment of America’s school leadership.

My wife at a public school is under orders not to fail any minority for any reason. 400 out of 1,500 total students are under a “death watch” because they routinely show up to school strung out on opiates. A high-school diploma means absolutely nothing.

For minorities, this means they need a college degree to represent what a high-school diploma used to: they’ve shown they can attend classes and have some marginal level of literacy and numeracy. (Not even that in many states, like California) They have to go into debt for $100,000 to even take jobs as Trader Joes stockboys, office assistants, receptionists, etc. All because it violates some strung out, violent thug’s civil rights to be fail in High School.


18 posted on 01/27/2023 8:00:13 AM PST by dangus
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30 years in computer security at the U.S. Treasury Department (B.S./B.A.) taught me I would have made more money and would have had a better life as a pipefitter. My union laborer brother made a killing on the north slope of Alaska on the Pipeline Facilities Project. I made chump change I comparison as Staff employee for Wright Schuchart Harbor in Tacoma.


19 posted on 01/27/2023 8:02:11 AM PST by ManOfLaMuncha
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let’s talk about what higher education in America really is — a racket that sells you a very expensive ticket to the upper middle class,” Maher declared

No. It doesn't even help you move classes.

20 posted on 01/27/2023 8:02:29 AM PST by PGR88
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All depends on what the child’s interests are. Although at age 18ish, it’s virtually impossible to know what your talent and passions are.


23 posted on 01/27/2023 8:07:10 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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Apparently-—NONE of these parents have realized that basic READING-—WRITING-—and MATH are the MOST important.

Really glad I went to a ONE ROOM SCHOOL.


24 posted on 01/27/2023 8:07:45 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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A degree is essential for a career in academia.

Anything else, the credential might offer a few introductions. For learning things, there are many other ways to do that now.


27 posted on 01/27/2023 8:20:13 AM PST by glorgau
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Bogus, worthless degrees and sports scholarships keep the minorities going to these brainswashing and programming institutions. If it wasn’t for the opportunity of getting into professional sports, a lot of minorities wouldn’t bother going.


28 posted on 01/27/2023 8:21:25 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Spay and neuter your "migrants" and liberals.)
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My degree in Molecular Biology from Revelle College, UCSD included lower division with heavy emphasis on math, physics, biology in addition to humanities and foreign language. Upon graduation, my specific skillset had few opportunities outside of academia. Labs at Cold Spring Harbor doing research in the field was an option. I went to a year of grad school at San Diego State University in the Microbiology department. In January of 1977, a flu circulating on campus infected me and progressed to double pneumonia. It pretty well torched my 2nd semester.

That strong lower division at UCSD made it easy to get a First Class Radiotelephone license and Extra Class ham license to leverage my life long interest in electricity/electronics. Instant employment. Field Service Engineer servicing 180 tuna boats and 14 base stations. A nice balance of physical field work, customer service and bench electronics technical repair. My German language proficiency was helpful when a German full duplex VHF radio needed repair. The service manuals on the boat were all in German. No problem. Ordering repair parts from Germany was the most difficult part of the process due to currency and shipping distance.

The point is that the college degree offered the breadth of skill acquisition to rapidly adapt skills and job opportunities. I switched to software engineering as most of my income generation.

30 posted on 01/27/2023 8:30:34 AM PST by Myrddin
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As a side note to this thread, please consider the following.

As a consequence of unconstitutional federal funding for INTRAstate schooling, and associated unconstitutional federal interference in schooling, high standards for schooling have vaporized imo.

In other words desperate, corrupt. elite Democrats and RINOs effectively gave away "free" college degrees to buy special interest / minority votes at the high cost of compromising a quality education imo.

In fact, consider that President Thomas Jefferson, in a State of the Union address, also Justice Joseph Story, had both indicated that the states would first need to appropriately amend the Constitution in order for Congress to be able to dictate, regulate, tax and spend in the name of intrastate schooling — something that the states have never done.

The bottom line is that patriots have gotten practice helping Trump to drain the swamp by primarying bad-apple “Republicans,” and we're going to have to do that again in 2024, also in 2026 for Trump 47's last two years in office.

In the meanwhile, ALL the states desperately need to put a "permanent" stop to unconstitutional federal taxes, and likewise unconstitutional interference in the affairs of the sovereign states, by effectively "seceding" from the unconstitutionally big federal government.

The states will "secede" from the corrupt feds by repealing the 16th (direct taxes) and 17th (popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A).

If the proposed amendment was limited strictly to repealing 16&17A, relatively little or ideally no discussion would be needed before ratification of the amendment imo.

32 posted on 01/27/2023 8:37:00 AM PST by Amendment10
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Maybe that’s why my Alma Mater seems to be turning itself into an HBCU.


38 posted on 01/27/2023 9:07:48 AM PST by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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