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Republicans Must Take the Lead in Reforming Social Security and Medicare: The last president to reform Social Security was Ronald Reagan. Republicans need to follow his example
American Thinker ^ | 02/10/2023 | William Manning

Posted on 02/10/2023 6:57:04 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: TexasFreeper2009
Republicans need to stay the hell away from SS and Medicare.

Totally agree. The Democrats have always held the demagogical high ground here. The Republicans would be fools to make this a campaign issue, because no matter how responsible reform might be, it is a nearly impossible sale when the other side is simply playing politics with the issue.

21 posted on 02/10/2023 7:30:44 AM PST by CommerceComet ("You know why there's a Second Amendment? In case, the government forgets the first." Rush Limbaugh )
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The Japanese were somewhat first, but Ben Bernanke was loudest, in the invention of Quantitative Ease.

This is the process of a central bank creating money from thin air and lending it to a government that runs a deficit. If one says “I am not monetizing debt, I am stimulating the economy” this becomes Quantitative Ease. If, instead, one were to say “I am monetizing debt” then that would not be QE. Note that the only difference between the two is what the purpose is said to be.

There has been trillions upon trillions of QE in the US since about 2008. THAT is where Soc Sec and Medicare funding comes from. Thin air.

The Swamp wants to talk about mathematics and whether to cut benefits or raise taxes, because that is Swamp focus and keeps the attention of the public off of the created-from-nothingness reality of US money.

So . . .the single most logical thing to do for Medicare is expand its coverage from 80% of costs out to 100% of costs. This will erase the entire Medigap industry and Medicare Advantage companies. Before anyone jumps up and yells about negative impact on the economy I refer you above to money coming from nothingness.


22 posted on 02/10/2023 7:31:28 AM PST by Owen
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To: SeekAndFind

Good luck with that. W campaigned on SS reform and granted, 9/11 had something to do with it being derailed but between the closeness of the 2000 election and Dems demagoguing the issue the long knives were coming for W.


23 posted on 02/10/2023 7:33:22 AM PST by No Party Affiliation
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To: SeekAndFind

There is no such thing as depleted. They will print money. AA is just another inflationary program. It will never run out of fiat money.


24 posted on 02/10/2023 7:34:38 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why is there endless money for welfare and illegals, which were not funded??


25 posted on 02/10/2023 7:36:26 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: ClearCase_guy

Solution is simple.

Every worker continues to be taxed as currently.

Any amount needed above that is created out of thin air, as is now done for almost anything else.

Would it be inflationary??

Of course!

In fact, if we can create money, eliminate taxes all together, and create a x% increase in the money supply annually.

PS - the national debt will never be paid off


26 posted on 02/10/2023 7:40:06 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: dfwgator
In other words, keep this Ponzi going until I’m dead.
27 posted on 02/10/2023 7:40:15 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3

The SS fund will quickly right itself once the baby boomers are gone.


28 posted on 02/10/2023 7:43:50 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: SeekAndFind

The IOUs are ‘paid back’ by the Treasury issuing debt to the public.
The issue for these ponzis is that the taxes aren’t sufficient to continue promised payouts. By law the programs are funded only by payroll taxes. Those taxes have been increased over 20 times since the programs were started. When benefits are threatened they’ll be increased again.
The Americans who getting benefits now will get more than they ever paid in, future generations will pay more than than they’ll ever get back.
The Ponzi has passed tipping point for anyone born after 1975.


29 posted on 02/10/2023 7:43:52 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: SeekAndFind

As of today, there are approximately 56 million baby boomers in the United States, making up around 18% of the total population.

By 2034, it is projected that the number of baby boomers will have declined, with an estimated population of 25 million to 30 million people, or approximately 8% to 10% of the total population. By 2040, that number is expected to decrease further to between 15 million to 20 million people, or around 4% to 5% of the population.

Given these numbers, it raises the question of why the Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) program is projected to be depleted in 2034.

As the baby boomer population begins to decrease, it is expected that the payouts for people over the age of 67 will also decrease.


30 posted on 02/10/2023 7:50:42 AM PST by DEPcom (DC is not my Capitol after Jan 6th lock downs.)
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To: SeekAndFind

A good way to start is to stop allowing FRIGGIN’ FOREIGNERS to apply for Social Security and Medicare. If you haven’t WORKED AND BUSTED YOU ASS IN AMERICA ALL OF YOUR LIFE AND THE GOVERNMENT DIDN’T SKIM THE TOP OFF OF YOUR PAYCHECK EVERY TWO WEEKS, YOUR NOT FRIGGIN’ ELIGIBLE. PERIOD!!!!


31 posted on 02/10/2023 7:51:20 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Remember what FJB Brandon said, "...more than half of the women in my administration are women.")
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To: central_va

“The SS fund will quickly right itself once the baby boomers are gone.”

Ditto


32 posted on 02/10/2023 7:51:24 AM PST by DEPcom (DC is not my Capitol after Jan 6th lock downs.)
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To: stevio

Here in michiganstan, the bush league chamber of commerce worshiping republiCAN’Ts that ran this state for decades feather in the cap was raising taxes on retirees pensions and social security.
The first thing the dem majority did was revoke this tax increase.

RepubliCAN’Ts are truly the party of stupid


33 posted on 02/10/2023 7:55:15 AM PST by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: SeekAndFind

Soon we’ll be on the QFS system and there will be plenty of money to fund social security.


34 posted on 02/10/2023 7:57:47 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: cgbg

> This is a classic Republican death march—a great way to lose the House and stay the minority party forever. <

Yep. Right now the GOP is a pathetic mini-brake on government spending, and on government insanity in general. Try to mess with Social Security and even that brake will be gone.

Then look out below!


35 posted on 02/10/2023 8:05:37 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: SeekAndFind

One of Ragan’s Social Security reforms was to sign the Biden-endorsed bill to tax Social Security income.

When I started working in 1959, the DJIA was at 829. Today it’s over 30,000. If all my Social Security contributions, and the matching contributions of my employers, were invested in a DJIA-indexed account, I would have tens of millions of dollars with which to retire, rather than the paltry Social Security allowance, which is below the poverty level.


36 posted on 02/10/2023 8:09:14 AM PST by Westbrook (The Democrats are wizards at two things: Finding votes and losing evidence.)
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To: Leaning Right

Yup—classic one step forward, a million steps backward thinking by the Republicans.

They have graduated from the stupid party to the super stupid party.


37 posted on 02/10/2023 8:24:39 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I watched some Reagan clips just days ago. He said few words but they counted and he was always careful. What he said about SSI was that: “it needs to be changed but not for those currently enrolled.” That is what they did.

However, it has been robbed and misused so many times in the ensuing nearly 40 years it is headed for broke again.

Medicare is broke because it too has been used for so many things that were never intended. That and the medical industrial complex keeps thinking of new and more effective ways to milk it for all it has and more. It is not socialized medicine, it is a blank check for fat cats to get fatter.


38 posted on 02/10/2023 8:31:14 AM PST by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Medicare (and Medicaid) fraud is probably one of the nation’s largest industries.

The odds of getting caught at it are probably less than one tenth of one percent—and the big boys can lawyer up as needed.


39 posted on 02/10/2023 8:35:48 AM PST by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Too late. In fact it appears they are buckling down on it. The democrats will use this in 2024. I can’t imagine this being a winning issue. Reagan did it on his way out the door basically. We also lost a senate seat so the democrats had 55 seats to our 45 seats for George h bush. The house added seats to the democratic majority to 260 seats.

So I don’t think Reagan was successful in the social security arena. He made social security taxable for the first time and added two years. That’s a huge tax increase where voters obviously noticed in 1988!


40 posted on 02/10/2023 8:41:12 AM PST by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country!)
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