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To: nickcarraway

I have a question for my own education and I am asking you and I think I will get a straight answer

I have not strong opinions on the Ukraine Russian conflict although it appears around here there are two pretty passionate sides but there isn’t a lot of why behind the support of one or the other side.

Can you briefly explain the what the theory is behind support of either Ukraine or Russia? I might be simple on this but it appears to me the Ukraine defense is rooted in opposition to Russian expansion in all things. It seems defending the Russian side is more directed at we simply should. It interfere as it is. Not our problem nor business.

What am I missing?


14 posted on 02/23/2023 9:04:16 PM PST by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will )
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To: gas_dr

Thank you for asking such a vital question amidst this disgusting, childish bickering. I can’t stay and help you right now, but I’ll check back tomorrow and if you haven’t gotten a good answer, I will provide one.

-Jeff


18 posted on 02/23/2023 9:19:39 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: gas_dr

Fundamentally it’s about NATO and red lines, and globalist goals for a de-populated Earth.
NATO is a dangerous anachronism left over from the Cold War.
Not long after the Cold War fell apart, NATO was re-purposed to fight “terrorism”, most of which we now understand was concocted and secretly supported by our own CIA, especially in regards to Al Qaeda and ISIS.
This for the purpose of maintaining a state of perpetual conflict involving US forces and/or materials, which is where the big money is to be found.

We’ve known for decades that NATO in Ukraine is a red line for Russia.
The CIA/neocons crossed the red line by installing a puppet government in Ukraine, which proceeded to seek NATO membership.
Ukrainian membership in NATO would have put nuclear/biological weapons on the border of Russia.

They slapped the shit out of the bear and now it’s on the warpath.
They want all the war they can get and all the population reduction they can get.
They intend to live as kings while the greatly reduced population of Earth serve as their slaves.
They just need to get the numbers down to something manageable.
Putin has to defend Russia from NATO while not giving the vultures the mass extinction they seek.
Our enemy is here, not over there.


21 posted on 02/24/2023 12:14:20 AM PST by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: gas_dr

“What am I missing?”

With the 17th Amendment, we end up supporting Ukraine.


22 posted on 02/24/2023 12:38:12 AM PST by Does so (What distinguishes today's Russian aggression from that of the USSR?)
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To: gas_dr

The United States uses the Ukraine as a place to conduct otherwise illegal activities. That’s the true reason why our government is behaving the wah it is in the defence of Ukraine.

What illegal activities? Money laundering. Medical experiments.


26 posted on 02/24/2023 3:44:35 AM PST by KobraKai
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