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Col. MacGregor: Ukraine has been DESTROYED and there's nothing left
Redacted on YouTube ^ | Mar 1, 2023 | Clayton Morris

Posted on 03/01/2023 9:07:00 PM PST by Kazan

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To: BrexitBen
The U.S. hasn’t won a war in 78 years

We're 10 and 3.

41 posted on 03/01/2023 10:22:28 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

You cannot believe anything you read about this war.

It’s 24/7 propaganda from both sides.


42 posted on 03/01/2023 10:22:38 PM PST by aquila48 (Do not let them make you "care" ! Guilting you is how thery control you. )
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To: ansel12
why not just look up what he really said?

The quote is at 3:04-3:20:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl4OyPwLF8w&t=421s

43 posted on 03/01/2023 10:25:31 PM PST by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

I didn’t mean the words that propaganda site picked to mislead you, but what he actually said.

He said if Ukraine loses then Russia will at some point move on the Baltic NATO members which would mean that we would be fighting and our GIs dying just as Ukraine soldiers are dying today.

“The U.S. is never going to give up on the NATO member states,” Zelenskyy says in the video. “If it happens so that Ukraine, due to various opinions and weakening, depleting of assistance, loses, Russia is going to enter Baltic states, NATO member states, and then the U.S. will have to send their sons and daughters exactly the same way as we are sending their sons and daughters to war. And they will have to fight. Because it’s NATO that we’re talking about, and they will be dying, god forbid, because it’s a horrible thing.”


44 posted on 03/01/2023 10:37:07 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Kazan

There’s none so blind as those who will not see.


45 posted on 03/01/2023 10:39:18 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

AP accidentally said THEIR instead of OUR in their piece but here is the accurate version.

“Russia is going to enter Baltic states, NATO member states, and then the U.S. will have to send their sons and daughters, exactly the same way as we are sending our sons and daughters, to war.
“And they will have to fight because it’s NATO that we’re talking about and they will be dying, God forbid, because it’s a horrible thing.”


46 posted on 03/01/2023 10:41:18 PM PST by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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With the exception of the laundromat — that’s working perfectly


47 posted on 03/01/2023 10:44:18 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: crz

Or, given all the “globohomo” and “BRICS” apologetics of the Putinists, they will be fighting FOR China.


48 posted on 03/01/2023 11:08:49 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: DannyTN

Indeed. This guy is delusional.


49 posted on 03/01/2023 11:09:25 PM PST by eclectic (Liberalism is a mental disorder)
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To: MinorityRepublican
It's certainly not a stalemate given the Russia has annexed 40,000 square miles of land, had 12-1 edge in causalities and 10-1 edge in ammo fired.

Watch the damn video.

50 posted on 03/01/2023 11:09:49 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

You live in an interesting mental world. Everybody has something I suppose.


51 posted on 03/01/2023 11:11:39 PM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: DannyTN
You're in denial of reality. The narrative you and your ilk is what is a lie and comes straight from the Biden regime and Deep State.

And, the rest of us are sick of wasting money on this war and seeing morons risk getting us into WWIII and nuclear war.

If you have a problem with Russia, get your sorry ass over to Ukraine and fight them yourself.

52 posted on 03/01/2023 11:12:13 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Shove the video these guys are propagandists. Duh.


53 posted on 03/01/2023 11:13:21 PM PST by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: MinorityRepublican
If you believe Russia has lost anywhere near that many, all you are repeating is propaganda that isn't close reality>

Here's a realistic number:

https://meduza.io/en/news/2023/02/13/mediazona-and-bbc-news-russian-publish-further-figures-on-russia-s-losses-in-ukraine

Mediazona and BBC News Russian, together with a group of volunteers, have confirmed the deaths of 14,093 Russian servicemen killed in the Ukraine war before February 12. They arrived at this total using only public records and other open sources.

54 posted on 03/01/2023 11:15:14 PM PST by Kazan
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To: Kazan
Like a lawyer arguing a bad case, much of what MacGregor says is wrong, distorted, or ill informed. He assumes that greater Russian resources of manpower and weapons mean that it will inevitably prevail in a war of attrition, but the best evidence is to the contrary.

Ukrainian courage and modern US and NATO weapons are taking a devastating toll on Russian forces. Moreover, corruption and the fundamental weakness of Russian military organization, training, and doctrine make it impossible for Russia to convert material and manpower advantages into effective combat power.

The larger strategic question is whether the US and NATO will provide Ukraine with enough resources to win. In the end, the case for doing so is strong enough that they should and almost certainly will.

55 posted on 03/01/2023 11:17:15 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Kazan

No I think I will stay here and advocate for sending Military equipment to help Ukraine defend itself.

If Russia doesn’t like it, they can pack up their toys and go home.


56 posted on 03/01/2023 11:19:46 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Kazan
Danny is not stupid. He is just a Biden worshiper and Soros worshiper. He will do as his masters say except go to Ukraine and fight. You could not get Danny over there with a D8 Cat hooked on each arm and leg. He will be glad to hold your or anyone's coat while they go and fight and die though.
57 posted on 03/01/2023 11:27:32 PM PST by sport
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To: wildcard_redneck
It's funny but the pro-Uke bozos love posting fictional "damage" counts and "scores". It is clear that they've spent many an hour playing video games. They treat this conflict as though it were a video game for their entertainment.

58 posted on 03/01/2023 11:29:04 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Property destruction is all in Ukraine. Nothing in Russia. That is not a stalemate.


59 posted on 03/01/2023 11:37:46 PM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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To: Williams

Videos don’t lie. Posters lie often.


60 posted on 03/01/2023 11:38:55 PM PST by entropy12 (Food is most popular anxiety drug, exercise is the least popular.)
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