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Conservatives Want to Secede From Oregon, and Leftists Are ENRAGED: The Secession Movement of Eastern Oregon is Gathering Steam
PJ Media ^ | 03/05/2023 | Robert Spencer

Posted on 03/05/2023 9:44:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind

The people in eastern Oregon are generally patriotic and sane, and they’re tired of being subjected to the misrule of the far-Left kleptocrats in Salem, who care about them only as a cash cow to fund their socialist pipe dreams. Accordingly, some have formed the Greater Idaho movement, which actually hopes to detach Oregon’s rural eastern counties from the state and attach them to Idaho. This movement, as fanciful as it seems, is gathering steam, and that has Democrats enraged. Whatever else it may be, their rage is revealing.

Idaho Senate Minority Leader Melissa Wintrow, a Democrat, said: “I’m very pleased this measure has virtually no chance of advancing into reality. It would be bad for all involved and bad for the country, and I am opposed to it at all levels.”

Bad for the country! When Leftists who have nothing but contempt for the America-First movement and seem to put America last in all their policy considerations, start declaring that something is “bad for the country,” it must be very good indeed.

Fox News explained Sunday that Wintrow was “referring to a resolution making its way through the Idaho Legislature that wouldn’t move the Idaho-Oregon border but rather call for formal talks between the states’ legislatures about relocating the boundary line. Last month, Idaho’s House of Representatives passed the bill, which will now be debated in the state senate. It’s unclear if the bill will pass the Idaho Senate, but the chamber is, like the state’s House, dominated by Republicans.” That means that it actually has a chance.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: Idaho; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: conservatism; idaho; oregon; oregpn; secession
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What is the big deal about moving a state boundary line? “Proponents of the idea argue it’s about maintaining more traditional values, preserving a certain way of life, and being properly represented by the state’s lawmakers.” Idaho Rep. Judy Boyle (R-9th district) stated: “Yes, I am supportive of the Greater Idaho idea. I have lived along the Oregon border my entire life, so [I] have many east Oregon friends. They have been quite frustrated with the liberal I-5 western Oregon corridor running their state and completely ignoring their values and needs. They have finally come down to asking the voters, county by county, if they want to join Idaho. Currently, 11 counties have said YES!”



1 posted on 03/05/2023 9:44:02 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Eastern Washington is next.


2 posted on 03/05/2023 9:47:52 AM PST by G Larry ( "woke" means 'stupid enough to fall for the promotion of every human weakness into a virtue')
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To: SeekAndFind

“…and bad for the country, and I am opposed to it at all levels.”“

It is worse for the country that demnoscum can “win” now no matter how badly they screwup.


3 posted on 03/05/2023 9:48:04 AM PST by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Legislature that wouldn’t move the Idaho-Oregon border but rather call for formal talks between the states’ legislatures about relocating the boundary line.


It begins the discussion......................


4 posted on 03/05/2023 9:48:15 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why do I think the courts will eventually slap this down? Seems the leftist are fine with conservatives and voters in try to push through legislation, then court-shop until they get want they want (California - Prop 9).


5 posted on 03/05/2023 9:49:39 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: CatOwner

Whoops, Prop 8.


6 posted on 03/05/2023 9:50:22 AM PST by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The American story is one of libs/leftists/Yankees (redundant) exploiting the Right and forcing us stay in an abusive relationship for our resources, labor and taxes. There is no coexisting with leftists or the busy body descendants of the Yankee puritans. Time for complete and total separation.


7 posted on 03/05/2023 9:50:35 AM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Somebody smarter than I should be able to provide some context on why this happens.

It isn’t well known now, but most states had a local equivalent to the federal Electoral College system. The idea was, rural counties in a state would not be dominated by one or two large cities. The federal supreme court ruled that was unconstitutional and mumbled something about “one man one vote” or something.

I think this is chickens coming home to roost. But I’m not sure.


8 posted on 03/05/2023 9:50:54 AM PST by Freedom4US
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To: G Larry

RE: Eastern Washington is next.

The map of Idaho is going to get bigger if this happens !!


9 posted on 03/05/2023 9:51:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Just off the top of my head:

1. Wasn’t Vermont once part of New York state?
2. Wasn’t Maine once part of Massachusetts?
3. I think the boundary between Massachusetts and New York was moved sometime in the 19th century.
4. Ditto the western border of Missouri was moved from the original boundary.
5. West Virginia broke off from Virginia during the Civil War.
6. When the Dakota territory was becoming a state, it was divided into two parts , with each one admitted as a separate state.

Point being, there have been changes to state boundaries previously in American history. The idea that there can never ever be any changes to any boundaries simply is not historically true.


10 posted on 03/05/2023 9:52:20 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

Of course an Idaho rat would be against adding productive citizens and land for their state. More Political power is the only thing that matters, it is everything.


11 posted on 03/05/2023 9:52:28 AM PST by gibsonguy
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To: PeterPrinciple

Think the electoral votes it would pick up. Peel a few away. More states would look at it the same way. Who wins? The left will fight tooth and nail. It’s up to the Oregon legislature. Lost cause?

We’d need the WH and both the house and senate.


12 posted on 03/05/2023 9:52:36 AM PST by DIRTYSECRET
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To: SeekAndFind

“Leftists Are ENRAGED”

The Party of Slavery discovered a while back that they could restore their antebellum lifestyle via wasteful taxation. Thus the outrage when their modern-day slaves get uppity.


13 posted on 03/05/2023 9:53:38 AM PST by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m generally black pilled, hopefully just a phase, but will say this movement by the good people of Oregon/Idaho does provide a glimmer of hope to my soul.


14 posted on 03/05/2023 9:54:28 AM PST by teevolt
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To: SeekAndFind

Leftists, at heart. Are control freaks.


15 posted on 03/05/2023 9:55:01 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Freedom4US

Reynolds v. Sims, 1964

Enshrined the rule of corrupt cities over their states.


16 posted on 03/05/2023 9:55:29 AM PST by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why “bad for the country”? It’s permissible (albeit difficult) under the Constitution. One would think an elected representative might pay attention to the fact that a significant part of her state wants not to be. At the least it serves as a wakeup call that the current Democrat approach of “we have the power, it’s ours forever, and you have to do everything we dream up” might be a bit off-putting?


17 posted on 03/05/2023 9:55:47 AM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Freedom4US
Some state legislatures had a house that was appointed geographically, such as with one or two state Senators per county, meaning, like you said, that one or more big cities couldn't dominate the entire state. Alabama, for example, had one state Senator per county.

Then Reynolds v. Sims ruined the whole thing in 1964 by mandating, unconstitutionally, that all state legislative houses have representation proportional to the population (one man, one vote).

18 posted on 03/05/2023 9:56:50 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

We’d need the WH and both the house and senate.


We need to move the fight to local and state. Take the power away from central govt.


19 posted on 03/05/2023 9:57:48 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Freedom4US
Look up Reynolds v. Sims and Baker v. Carr.
20 posted on 03/05/2023 9:57:56 AM PST by Publius
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