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Utah man shot several times by police during traffic stop after officers allegedly see gun: video
Fox News ^ | Mar. 9, 2023 | Adam Sabes

Posted on 03/09/2023 1:24:15 PM PST by libstripper

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To: libstripper

Article said that he has been “studying law” for the last few years. He shouldn’t have tried practicing it until he passed the bar. Soccer, UC Davis, lawyer is all you need to know.


21 posted on 03/09/2023 1:44:20 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("I may be a white boy but I'm not stupid". - FJB at Black "History" event. Tell 'em Jo Jo!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

“Article said that he has been “studying law” for the last few years.”

Well then he learned a big lesson on the last day of class.


22 posted on 03/09/2023 1:49:24 PM PST by Round Earther
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To: Round Earther

I think he was in what we military types used to refer to as the “sh*thouse lawyer” stage.


23 posted on 03/09/2023 1:51:21 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("I may be a white boy but I'm not stupid". - FJB at Black "History" event. Tell 'em Jo Jo!)
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To: libstripper

Idiotic Sovereign Citizen smacktalk has consequences. Here’s a tip to such fools: Be polite and respectful to the cops. Comply with their instructions. Record the interaction if you wish, and then, if you take exception, sue them. Don’t bring a spurious legal argument to a gunfight that your failure to comply provoked.


24 posted on 03/09/2023 1:58:53 PM PST by SharpenedEdge (Stockpile. Prepare. Arm. Train. A Storm is coming.)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

“Fortunately I’ve never been stopped while carrying in the car.”

My experience has been that immediate disclosure got me particularly good treatment, so good, indeed, that it’s become my SOP.


25 posted on 03/09/2023 1:59:17 PM PST by libstripper
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To: JoSixChip

Utah…..not NY..,not New Jersey….not California


26 posted on 03/09/2023 2:01:45 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Utah is a constitutional carry state.


27 posted on 03/09/2023 2:05:48 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you. )
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To: NorthMountain
The fact he had a gun was not a problem here.

What was the problem is that the guy seemed to think that laws didn't apply to him, starting with the fake license plate that likely indicated to the responding officer that this guy was going to be trouble.

The law is really clear that if you are operating a motor vehicle on a public street, you have to provide identification and the car must be registered.

Arguing with the cops about those most basic facts is rarely going to end well. On top of that, reaching for a clearly visible gun, without telling the police what you're doing can be fatal. As it was in this case.

28 posted on 03/09/2023 2:12:30 PM PST by Repealthe17thAmendment
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To: HYPOCRACY

“Does beg the question that the cop called for backup before seeing or knowing the guy had a gun.”

Common practice to call for backup with an uncooperative or non-compliant person. It is unknown if the person will escalate the situation or want to fight. Better safe than sorry.


29 posted on 03/09/2023 2:12:48 PM PST by Pirate Ragnar (Be calm and act.)
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To: Cen-Tejas

“it looks like the cops waaayyy over-reacted. For starters....why 12 rounds?

There were multiple officers there. Do you want them to wait and see if the first shot worked?


30 posted on 03/09/2023 2:14:28 PM PST by Pirate Ragnar (Be calm and act.)
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To: BenLurkin

suicide by cop.


31 posted on 03/09/2023 2:14:36 PM PST by dirtymac ( Now Is The Time For All Good Men To ComeTo The Aid Of Their Country! NOW) )
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To: babygene

He wasn’t shot because he was a wise ass. The officer gave him all kinds of leeway and was courteous and patient. He was shot because he reached.


32 posted on 03/09/2023 2:16:30 PM PST by Pirate Ragnar (Be calm and act.)
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To: deport

“people have that frigging phone in their hand every waking minute... “

I don’t but I damn sure would if police initiate an interaction with me.


33 posted on 03/09/2023 2:17:47 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: libstripper

Play stupid games get stupid results


34 posted on 03/09/2023 2:18:27 PM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: HYPOCRACY

That’s what the family says. Not what the police reported


35 posted on 03/09/2023 2:19:40 PM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: NorthMountain

“Attention cops: We the People are armed, as is our fundamental, God-given and Constitutionally protected right. Get used to it. If you can’t wrap your head around it; if you can’t show us proper respect .”

The officer didn’t show him courtesy and respect? Are you just ignoring that? By all means show respect when someone reaches for a gun - you won’t go home that night though. What kind of unicorn reality are you living in? You are residing in the lefty, Antifa anti-cop gutter.


36 posted on 03/09/2023 2:21:31 PM PST by Pirate Ragnar (Be calm and act.)
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To: Cen-Tejas

You fire until the threat is removed


37 posted on 03/09/2023 2:24:49 PM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Nifster

Fair enough.


38 posted on 03/09/2023 2:25:59 PM PST by HYPOCRACY (This is the dystopian future we've been waiting for!)
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To: babygene

Reaching for it guaranteed he’d be target practice


39 posted on 03/09/2023 2:26:02 PM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: babygene

Reaching for it guaranteed he’d be target practice


40 posted on 03/09/2023 2:26:02 PM PST by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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