To: Kazan
Yeah, I think if Russia gets a breakout in Lyman, Bakhmut, or Aviiwhatever, you’re probably going to see Zelensky tossed out and a peace treaty made under China or Turkey. NATO will scream foul, but Ukraine won’t listen. By then their negotiation position will be existential.
2 posted on
03/22/2023 8:48:29 AM PDT by
struggle
To: struggle
More likely Turkey...and IIRC, is also friends with Russia...
3 posted on
03/22/2023 8:49:47 AM PDT by
Sacajaweau
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To: struggle
6 posted on
03/22/2023 8:53:16 AM PDT by
Sacajaweau
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To: struggle
No, the immediate effect of an imminent Ukrainian military collapse would be Polish intervention to limit the Russian advance, an eventuality long foreseen as possible by Poland's military planners. For all the caterwauling about the Russian invasion of Ukraine being a "border conflict" and "don't poke the bear," for NATO allies Poland and the Baltic Republics, Russian control of Ukraine would be a major threat to their security that has to be averted if at all possible.
To: struggle
“Yeah, I think if Russia gets a breakout in Lyman, Bakhmut, or Aviiwhatever”
Just wait until the ground is frozen...
To: struggle
“By then their negotiation position will be existential.”
Either way it’s existential. If they make peace now, Russia will just invade again in five or ten years to take another bite.
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