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As always, when talking about Carter:

Carterpalooza!

1 posted on 03/26/2023 6:15:43 AM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: Rummyfan

I think if they focus on his habitat for humanity, that is a legitimate positive. Other then that, it’s rewriting history.


2 posted on 03/26/2023 6:19:10 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: Rummyfan

BTTT


6 posted on 03/26/2023 6:32:07 AM PDT by nopardons
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7 posted on 03/26/2023 6:32:35 AM PDT by mjp (pro-freedom & pro-wealth $)
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The most recent C-SPAN poll of historians now ranks Truman as the sixth greatest president in history

Trump, Reagan, Lincoln and Washington are tied for #1

Thirty-eight presidents are tied for #2

Jimmy Carter is #3

Barack Obama is #4

Joe Biden is #5

Harry Truman is #6

8 posted on 03/26/2023 6:35:20 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: Rummyfan

My biography of Reagan, “Reagan: The American President” has a chapter on the period 1976 to 1980 called “Worst President Ever *” and the * says “Until Barack Obama.

Now I won’t have a chance to revise that to say “Until Barack Obama and Joe Rutabaga”


9 posted on 03/26/2023 6:36:10 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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Carter was utterly out of his depth as president. Winning almost as a fluke against Gerald Ford, a weak unelected Republican incumbent, Carter lacked a broad sense of what the country needed and deferred to old cronies and Leftists in the Democratic Party in setting policy.

The result was a series of scandals and bad decisions by the Carter Administration on economic and national security issues. Stagflation ensued, and the Soviet Union began to make major political gains and increases in military strength that could have led to the dissolution of NATO and a Soviet victory in the Cold War.

Of course, Carter's defeat by Ronald Reagan led to a dramatic change in course. By the end of Reagan's first term, his tax cuts led to a massive economic recovery, and his expansion of the military and strong negotiating stance against the Soviets soon put the US toward victory in the Cold War.

11 posted on 03/26/2023 6:44:01 AM PDT by Rockingham
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Because of Joe Biden, Jimmy Carter no longer holds the title of the worst President in US history; however he still holds the title of the worst US President in the 20th Century.


12 posted on 03/26/2023 6:45:25 AM PDT by Brandonmark (November 2024 cannot come soon enough!)
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To: Rummyfan

Another neo-con deep stater heard from.

Carter had his faults, but unlike 0bama and Biden, he didn’t despise the country and its people that he was elected to lead. Toobin is just PO that Carter didn’t love Israel more than the United States, which is very typical of neo-cons.


13 posted on 03/26/2023 6:46:18 AM PDT by euram (allALL)
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Truman is way overrated, along with every Democrat, by the Democrat industrial complex (DIC). While I agree with Tobin that Carter was a terrible president, I’d argue that Truman was much worse, since his errors in judgment led to large numbers of dead Americans, and copious expenditures on wars that could have been averted if China hadn’t fallen to Mao. The man, by not only ignoring the Wedemeyer Report, but pouring gasoline on the fire, paved the way for 100K dead GIs in Korea and Vietnam. Without China as antagonist combatant, major supplier and trainer in Korea and Vietnam, there is no way 100K Americans would have been killed there.

That is down to Truman’s penny-wise, pound-foolish approach and perhaps a personal antagonism to Chiang Kai-shek, who was no prize, but not an enemy of these United States the way Mao was. Flawed as Carter was, nothing he did came close to the damage Truman inflicted. And the imperial designs of today’s China flow in a straight line from Mao’s self-acknowledged true inspirations - the classic Chinese novels The Water Margin and The Romance of the Three Kingdoms - which are essentially the moral equivalent of Alexander’s quest to conquer until his armies could advance no further.

Truman’s legacy was a China we will have to fight in the decades ahead. If American casualties are high enough, he should go down in history as the worst president we’ve ever had. But the odds are good that the Democrat Industrial Complex mentioned above will not only find ways to exonerate him, it will put him on a higher pedestal. That’s why historical assessments need to be taken with a grain of salt. History is written by winners among historians, and the winners aren’t always unbiased interpreters of events as they occurred.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Coady_Wedemeyer
[After returning from China, Wedemeyer was promoted to Army Chief of Plans and Operations. In July 1947, President Harry S. Truman sent Wedemeyer to China and Korea to examine the “political, economic, psychological and military situations.” The result was the Wedemeyer Report in which Wedemeyer stressed the need for intensive United States training of and assistance to the Nationalist armies.

Wedemeyer’s 1947 report painted a picture of the Chinese Civil War that was both opportune and dire. Chiang’s armies were far better-equipped than their Communist adversaries (who had not yet received weapons and training from the Soviets in Manchuria), and pushing them back on all fronts, but ammunition, fuel, and spare parts were severely lacking. These had been promised by Lend-Lease, but not delivered and still charged to Chaing’s account. Thus, while the Nationalists had over 16,000 trucks virtually all of them were rendered inoperable, forcing his troops to march on foot. Ammunition shortages were also causing Nationalist divisions to lose battles, and Chaing’s troops were forced to scavenge abandoned American dumps because no deliveries had been made. Even worse, much surplus weaponry and ammunition in the Pacific was being destroyed rather than utilized, and Chiang’s government was charged exorbitant prices for what remained. For example, bazookas were sold to Greece at $3.65 apiece, while Chiang’s government had to pay $162. For rifles, the price difference was $5.10 and $51, respectively. Ammunition cost differences were similar, China being charged $85 for 1000 rifle rounds and $95 for 1000 machine gun rounds, compared to $4.55 and $4.58 elsewhere. Wedemeyer recommended an immediate correction of these deficiencies and sending leftover equipment to China rather than blowing it up.

Lacking confidence in the Nationalist government caused by Joseph Stilwell and George Marshall’s meddling, President Harry S. Truman not only rejected the recommendations in the report but also imposed an arms embargo against the Nationalist government, thereby intensifying the bitter political debate over the role of the United States in the Chinese Civil War. While Secretary of State George C. Marshall had hoped that Wedemeyer could convince Chiang Kai-shek to institute those military, economic, and political reforms that would create a Nationalist-Communist coalition, he supported Truman’s view and suppressed publication of Wedemeyer’s report, further provoking resentment by Nationalist and communist advocates both inside and outside the US government and the armed forces.[citation needed] The report was reprinted, however, in the 1949 China White Paper.

Following completion of the report, he assumed command of the Sixth United States Army in San Francisco, California; in this capacity, Wedemeyer “thought of himself as cut off from further military policy making.”[14]

After the fall of China to Communist forces, Wedemeyer would testify before Congress that while the loss of morale was indeed a cause of the defeat of the Nationalist Chinese forces, the Truman administration’s 1947 decision to discontinue further training and modernizing of Nationalist forces, the US-imposed arms embargo, and constant anti-Nationalist sentiment expressed by Western journalists and policymakers were the primary causes of that loss of morale.[15][better source needed] In particular, Wedemeyer stressed that if the US had insisted on experienced American military advisers attached at the lower battalion and regimental levels of Nationalist armies, as it had done with Greek army forces during the Greek Civil War, the aid could have more efficiently been used. He also said that the immediate tactical assistance would have resulted in Nationalist armies performing far better in combat against the Communist Chinese.[15][better source needed]

Vice Admiral Oscar C. Badger, General Claire Chennault, and Brigadier General Francis Brink also testified that the arms embargo was a significant factor in the loss of China.[15]]


15 posted on 03/26/2023 7:00:29 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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While he was POTUS I didn't care much about politics but I just assumed that he was a well meaning guy who was in over his head. But now I'm not at all sure of that. And when it comes to being an *ex* President he is,by far,the worst of *my* lifetime...far worse than even Osama Obama.

I don't give a rat's hindquarters if he's dying...he has harmed this country enormously both while in office *and* after leaving it.

16 posted on 03/26/2023 7:00:33 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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I don’t think anybody is going to forget what a disaster Jimmy Crater was.


19 posted on 03/26/2023 7:12:03 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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He was hired by Hugo Chavez to bless his election. His Carter Center was not allowed to inspect or verify anything, he was not allowed in the election command center, there was enormous fraud, but he blessed the election on camera within 15 minutes of polls closing. And accused Bush of stealing his election in the process.

Corrupt. He did what he was paid to do.


28 posted on 03/26/2023 7:30:42 AM PDT by marron
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Carter’s greatest mistake.
Building a truck assembly factory for the Russian’s...which they used to invade Afghanistan


41 posted on 03/26/2023 8:18:19 AM PDT by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism )
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Yeah because the Iran debacle and twenty percent rates on home loans was just so friggin great


46 posted on 03/26/2023 9:11:02 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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Just this one thing: during his presidency, five nations entered the Soviet communist sphere.


49 posted on 03/26/2023 9:40:26 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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To: Rummyfan
Carter was bad, but to be fair, a lot of problems Were not his fault. LBJ and Nixon were far worse. Nixon should have been Impeached for taking us off the Gold Standard.
52 posted on 03/26/2023 10:17:21 AM PDT by cowboyusa (There is no co- existence with Pinks and Reds)
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To: Rummyfan

Carter taught the Muhammadans that they could influence US foreign policy by putting a small group of American captives on TV and threatening to do them harm.

Do not underestimate how much the lesson of the Iranian Hostage Crisis influences the actions of Islamo-Terrorists to this day.


57 posted on 03/26/2023 1:09:31 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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