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Scott Ritter: Why Russians do not trust the West
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Posted on 03/31/2023 11:00:18 PM PDT by ganeemead

Minsk agreement and sabotage, why Putin is not interested in Western peace proposals

The war wiill likely end soon, but not on Western terms.


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1 posted on 03/31/2023 11:00:18 PM PDT by ganeemead
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To: ganeemead

You can thank Brandon for that!


2 posted on 03/31/2023 11:12:56 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as.)
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To: No name given

Bubba, Dubya and Jugears made significant contributions to the effort too.


3 posted on 03/31/2023 11:25:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Woke is a cancer of the mind and humanity)
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To: TigersEye

They’d have to be idiots to believe NATO and the US after the lie of “not one inch east of a reunified Germany”.

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early


4 posted on 03/31/2023 11:31:20 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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The West was once held accountable by virtue of the liberties enjoyed by the citizens. But since the #ing Rats have been aggressively gnawing away at that balance, the West is rapidly losing its integrity

GTH, Rats


5 posted on 04/01/2023 12:00:05 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: ganeemead

Thing 1 and Thing 2; The Jacks of the Kremlin- Scott Ritter and Douglas MacGregor
April 26, 2022 by Ted Agens
https://afnn.us/2022/04/26/thing-1-and-thing-2-the-jacks-of-the-kremlin-scott-ritter-and-douglas-macgregor/

Just a quick essay on two men; one a former Army Colonel, Douglas MacGregor, the other a former USMC Major, Scott Ritter. Both of them had at one time enjoyed a much brighter spot in the media and military intelligentsia spotlight, but have fallen quite far due to their actions, statements and even criminal records.

Scott Ritter, who entered the Army as a Private, and then took an Oath as a commissioned Officer in the USMC, had about a 12 to 15 year career, mainly in the military intelligence field. This experience led him to advisory positions and even to a post as a UN weapons inspector in Iraq in the 1990’s.

For a time in the 90’s, his word on Iraq’s weapon’s programs led to decisions of consequence by American and other World leaders.

In 2003, however, he spoke out against the planned invasion of Iraq stating that Iraq had no WMD’s. A claim he was later proven to be correct about. This is something he has been using to “ride high” on ever since.

In 2009 though, Ritter took a hard fall. He was caught up in a “to catch a predator” type sting in Pennsylvania. In this, he engaged in both sexual discussion and then sexual behavior online (masturbating in front of a webcam) with a undercover police officer he thought was a 15 year old girl. He was convicted of a felony for this and served time in jail for it.

These days, he spends his time on many fringe social media sites and barely active YOUTUBE channels which are outlets for those of the QANON type. On them, he spreads Russian propaganda about Ukraine, about how NATO and the US plans on using Ukraine as a base for nuclear weapons to flatten Moscow with 5 minute flight time missiles, and how the US is building biological weapons in Uklraine and actively funding Neo Nazi groups there.

He can also be found on several dual use YT channels which have both QANON conspiracy videos and Russian propaganda and fake news in them. In the video linked below, he talks about the Javelin missile and how it is somehow not effective and that, apparently, all the pictures of destroyed Russian tanks by the Javelin system – aren’t?

Moreover, I find it extremely odd, given one of QANON core pillars being anti pedophila (‘pizza gate’, underage sex trafficking, adrenochrome clinics, etc) that those QANON people turn to Ritter’s expertise given his easily found record as a pedophile himself.

Scott Ritter “the Javelin missle myth.”

With Colonel MacGregor, he still seems to have some mainstream appeal, still having some appearances on FOX news with Tucker Carlson, though several other FOX news hosts have rejected him and his “predictions” on Ukraine on air as baseless and without merit.

Of course this from a man, who uses as his main claim to Military fame, as being “the man who planned and directed the Battle of 73 Easting” during Operation Desert Storm. Without going into detail, basically, that battle was not actually planned, but more or less ‘stumbled into’ as US units advanced as part of an overall plan.

A plan that was made at a level far higher than where MacGregor was assigned. Perhaps MacGregor suffers from envy as the man who is most notable for this battle is HR McMaster, who was in command of the Troop that led the engagement?

In the video linked below, he is being interviewed by a Far Left politician / YOUTUBER named Jackson Hinkle, a member of the American Democratic Socialist Party and a huge “Ukraine is full of NAZI’s and Putin will save the World” kind of guy.

In it, he dismisses the Russian defeat near Kyiv as a planned retreat, “they didn’t want Kyiv anyhow”. He sheds doubt on the Bucha massacre, he also suggests (as he does elsewhere, like on Tucker Carlson’s show) that Ukraine should surrender and bow to Putin.He also suggests that somehow, the US wants to position missiles in Ukraine that could “reach Moscow within a minute from being launched”.

Being a retired Field Artilleryman who more or less keeps up with things, I know of no ground based, surface to surface missile that could range Moscow from Ukrainian territory. Example: The ATACMS missile, fired by the M270 Self Propelled Launcher Loader of our MLRS system, has a range of around 300 kilometers The distance from Kharkiv, Ukraine to Moscow is around 750 kilometers.

Colonel Douglas Macgregor DEBUNKS Ukraine – Russia War Lies
Also of note is how both of these men are so popular in both the QANON world and the extreme Left of American Politics!. How all of the people we see interviewing them, in these videos and others they make, all have the same talking points we hear coming from the Kremlin on Ukraine; NAZI’s, Bioweapons, killing Russian speakers, an engineered Bioweapon based on “Russian DNA (what IS “Russian DNA” vs Ukrainian DNA?)carried by ducks”,NATO will attack Russia, etc.

ONE CAN ONLY BE LEFT TO SURMISE that both of these extreme and in opposition political sides are BEING INFORMED AND/OR DIRECTLY BY MOSCOW.

Another TELL of this is how nearly all of these YT activists, both Q and Left, use words. When pronouncing place names for example they make a point to use the Russian pronunciation over the Ukrainian one. ‘Kiev’ instead of ‘Kyiv’, ‘Chernigiv’ v ‘Chernihiv’, ‘Gostomel’ v ‘Hostomel’ and ‘Kharkov’ v ‘Kharkiv’. In the video, we can see MacGregor correct himself on this and switch to a Russian pronunciation.

These thoughts and discussions they are having are NOT opinions, I am sorry, they are just not.

Talk like this are for times of peace, not for times of war. Accept it or not, believe it or not, the US is at war with Russia.

We may not have our forces fighting engagements, but we are engaged economically, we are providing intel to Ukraine and of course, we are providing weapons.

Does either MacGregor or Ritter really want Urkaine to surrender so that US Forces DO end up in combat with Russians – in Ukraine? The Baltics? Poland? Better to defeat the Russian army and diminish their capacity for war elsewhere while they are in Ukraine.

These men both held Commissions as military officers, MacGregor retired and is still drawing ‘military pay’.
As such, he can be subjected to recall to active duty and to the UCMJ. It is my view that they should both be, at the very least, investigated and detained for questioning.

If they are saying as much as they are in PUBLIC about US weapons systems and capabilities, who knows what they may be saying in PRIVATE to Russia?

Especially the felon- Scott Ritter.


6 posted on 04/01/2023 12:27:13 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion)
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To: No name given

Thank Brandon and the Neo-Cons for forming the Axis of Evil China/Russia/Iran/North Korea (and maybe more) They are forging an unholy alliance that may well do us in if we don’t watch out.


7 posted on 04/01/2023 12:29:38 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: ganeemead

Scott Ritter is such a fly in the ointment to the Bush Admin, the Biden Admin, and Burger King bathroom admin.


8 posted on 04/01/2023 12:30:48 AM PDT by struggle
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To: ganeemead

We don’t trust our own government, why should the Russians?


9 posted on 04/01/2023 12:31:03 AM PDT by CodeToad (No Arm up! They have!)
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To: ganeemead
In her interviews with Alexander Osang, which took place over a period of a year and in various locations, Merkel insisted that her stance on the Minsk agreement – which brought a ceasefire after Russia's 2014 annexation of Ukraine's Crimea peninsula – had been right. Key points of the Minsk peace talks, including disarmament and supervision by an international body, were never followed through. But Merkel said the agreement had nevertheless helped buy Kyiv time to arm itself better against the Russian military.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/nov/25/angela-merkel-says-she-lost-influence-over-putin-as-a-lame-duck-leader

Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

10 posted on 04/01/2023 12:44:06 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: ganeemead

No thanks. Don’t need lectures from a turd


11 posted on 04/01/2023 12:49:22 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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This is a combination of: muddled, poorly informed thinking about the nature of binding agreements and how foreign policy and the game of nations actually work; and a big dose of pro-Russian propaganda embraced out of Scott Ritter's political and personal grievances against the US and other Western governments.

The animating idea that Russians cannot trust the West is beside the point. By definition, nations have divergent cultures and interests and simply do not trust one another and cannot be expected to. Indeed, the better argument is that the West cannot trust Russia, especially Russia under Putin, a corrupt KGB thug whose rule has been marked by astonishing levels of corruption and murder that have reached into and alarmed Western Europe.

Moreover, in civil law and affairs between nations, there is a vast difference between statements of present intention or policy and binding contracts that are supported by mutual promises. Especially between nations, mere statements of intention or policy by a government or public official are without binding effect when time passes or circumstances change, and such promises are categorically not binding on future governments.

In business, if you want a binding promise that lasts and can be enforced, you negotiate a written contract and get it signed by all the parties. Similarly, if a country wants a binding agreement with another country, it negotiates one and gets it reduced to a written deal, giving up something to get what it wants. And when a company or a country ceases to exist, so also do any promises to it.

So, whatever Jim Baker said or did not say to the USSR about the Bush administrations intentions, he never made a binding promise that would carry over to future administrations. And the USSR being defunct, today's Russia cannot in any event claim the benefit of any promises or agreements but must negotiate them anew.

12 posted on 04/01/2023 2:01:00 AM PDT by Rockingham
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Ukraine is an incredibly corrupt nation that was being used by Russian and US/EU oligarchs to enrich themselves.

When Ukraine was leaning more to Russia, the US staged a coup so those who leaned to the US/EU were in charge, ensuring US/EU oligarchs could continue to enrich themselves.

Russia quickly took Crimea in response.

The installed pro-US/EU government in Ukraine then engaged in a purge against pro-Russian groups. It was basically a civil war to ensure pro-Russian Ukrainians never had a voice again.

We can debate about who started it, but the FACT remains that neither side (US/EU or Russia) really gave a damn about the Ukrainian people. They only wanted control over a corrupt and resource-rich nation.

There are no good guys here.


13 posted on 04/01/2023 2:54:12 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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To: ganeemead

Thank goodness for Russia, standing up against the Rainbow Flag organization led by America, cruelly sacrificing Ukrainians to advance global financial corruption and transgender culture.


14 posted on 04/01/2023 3:06:22 AM PDT by Gratia
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To: ganeemead

why don’t Russians contribute to FR?

cheap bastards and your constant lying propaganda ... every freaking nite ...


15 posted on 04/01/2023 3:21:03 AM PDT by canuck_conservative (there would be no more need for NATO, if Russia could just stop attacking its neighbors)
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To: ganeemead

Scott Ritter the convicted pedophile? Why isn’t he living under a bridge somewhere?


16 posted on 04/01/2023 3:29:14 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: CodeToad

Not trusting our own government is no reason to trust the Russian government.


17 posted on 04/01/2023 4:07:03 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: CodeToad

“We don’t trust our own government, why should the Russians?”

Such a SIMPLE thing to say...yet, for some reason, the Operatives here seem to JUST LOVE Brandon when it comes to Ukraine. I wonder why?


18 posted on 04/01/2023 4:16:14 AM PDT by BobL
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To: Nifster

PERFECT!


19 posted on 04/01/2023 4:17:19 AM PDT by WellyP (question!)
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To: Rockingham

“So, whatever Jim Baker said or did not say to the USSR about the Bush administrations intentions, he never made a binding promise that would carry over to future administrations.”

Unfortunately for Ukrainians, they will no longer have a country due to Americans thinking they can out-lawyer Russia.


20 posted on 04/01/2023 4:18:20 AM PDT by BobL
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