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Russia, US are in hot conflict phase — senior diplomat
Tass ^ | 4/5/23 | Tass

Posted on 04/05/2023 6:04:33 AM PDT by hardspunned

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To: hardspunned

We have a new breed of neocons, millions who call themselves progressives who are fully on board with world domination through force. A true liberal of the 1960’s would have been 100% against this. The irony is, those liberals are the ones in power today and they are more power hungry and dollar driven than the conservatives they once protested against. And the following they have are young have-nots who think they will be partakers in the ill gotten gains of a global conflict in which millions will die for the lusts of the few. I have never known or experienced such madness and insanity. And it’s spiraling out of control. One false move could trigger a nuclear response. And you know when it does happen, those in power will blame those not in power and use it as a guise to silence through intimidation, arrests, and possible extermination of their opposition to solidify their power and position. And all they are doing is destroying what is left of the United States.


41 posted on 04/05/2023 6:57:21 AM PDT by realcleanguy (quickly things are falling apart, now that the )
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To: hardspunned

We should have stayed the hell out of this. We don’t have the moral high ground for one thing.


42 posted on 04/05/2023 7:04:55 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: Vermont Lt
There is a phrase bandied about these days: “F___ Around and Find Out.”

Just ask these Ukr-nazis...Bahkmut is the gift that keeps giving.


43 posted on 04/05/2023 7:11:20 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: hardspunned

The Russians intelligence services are to be congratulated on getting it right about US “leaders”:

“one doubt their mental faculties and their common sense.”

The trans push is what is called a clue....


44 posted on 04/05/2023 7:14:22 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: hardspunned

If NATO ever ‘went to war’ with Russia it could go nuclear within two days. That’s how long it would take NATO armored brigades to overrun Moscow. And I do mean overrun. It would be faster than Baghdad.

NATO would likely go in with mobile, tactical nukes or at least have them at the ready to respond in kind.

So be thankful NATO is not ‘at war with Russia’ and just STFU about it because that is not the case.

Russia is getting PAYBACK for its support of terrorist groups and terrorism across the globe for the last 102 years and particularly the last 20. SUCK IT UP.


45 posted on 04/05/2023 7:15:26 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: kelly4c

“We don’t have the moral high ground for one thing.”

So—I take it that making the world safe for perverts is not the moral high ground...

;-)


46 posted on 04/05/2023 7:15:36 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Justa

“That’s how long it would take NATO armored brigades to overrun Moscow.”

My hope is that there is no one in the Pentagon with your delusions. My fear is that there are some.


47 posted on 04/05/2023 7:16:49 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Vermont Lt
But, Russia is getting their ass kicked this time


48 posted on 04/05/2023 7:25:57 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: kelly4c
We don’t have the moral high ground for one thing.

Right, because we invade countries for territorial gain. Okay

49 posted on 04/05/2023 7:35:00 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: unread

No, Putin thinking Ukraine is part of Russia is what is getting a lot of people killed.


50 posted on 04/05/2023 7:37:18 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Vermont Lt

“NATO attacked Russia”. LMAO. Topics like this reveal how provincial, uniformed and easily manipulated many Americans are.


51 posted on 04/05/2023 7:40:11 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Justa

Check out Reagan’s and Thatcher’s explicit reasoning for deploying intermediate range nuclear Pershing IIs in Germany in the early 80s. What we see today, what you describe, is the mirror image of the situation then. The Russians are doing precisely what Reagan did with the nukes going into Belarus and along the Finnish frontier. I have no idea why you would think WWIII would be fought as a kinder, gentler conventional type WWII Eastern Front meat grinder conflict. Those Russian missiles are a trip wire that starts the total nuclear exchange. This is not Russian tactics, it is Reagan’s idea, stolen by the Russians. Up until one year ago it universally agreed that anyone claiming WWIII with the Russians was winnable by anyone was a reckless fool. The media masters then began flippantly speculating about how we could “win” WWIII and their warmongering stooges began championing the madness.


52 posted on 04/05/2023 7:42:41 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned
The Russians are doing precisely what Reagan did with the nukes going into Belarus and along the Finnish frontier

Except for the obvious difference, that Reagan's ultimate goal was to free the countries enslaved behind the Iron Curtain, and Putin now is trying to re-enslave them.

53 posted on 04/05/2023 7:47:59 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: hardspunned

After you got that book, I bought it. Good lord that was an eye opener. That was back in the day when exceedingly smart people invested deep thought in such things.


54 posted on 04/05/2023 7:52:30 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: larrytown

Point me to the UN authorization allowing us to be in Syria right now.


55 posted on 04/05/2023 7:57:23 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: ansel12

Bold talk. The euro NATO forces are hollow. Our fatties and trannies and women are not a terrifying threat. They all want to contribute hospitals, or one oddball esoteric unit. Britain cannot field a single division. Our troops have just spent two decades refining the art of Indian chasing in the hills of Afghanistan. A modern high-tech version of the hun for Geronimo.
We don’t have anything like the combat power needed to attack Russia. Even though warmongering DC, giddy from its success in Afghanistan and Syria and Libya, believes they can attack Russia at home, we have just enough capability to create a big enough threat to get DC, London and New York nuked.
And by the way, if we DID go all in, China does god knows what.

But you’ll never believe that.


56 posted on 04/05/2023 8:09:16 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: tlozo

We had the Comintern back then. Today we have the Western, woke, green, pervo globalist movement. After living under western, woke, green perverted globalists and seeing where they are taking the US, I’m not sure which is worse. You might like being woke green and perverted. Personally, I’m tired of having them shove it down my throat.


57 posted on 04/05/2023 8:13:31 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Justa

Thank you for perfectly illustrating the rockhard stupidity that permeates our defense establishment and our leaders. We don’t have anything approaching the size and quality of the force we had in desert storm. Overlay at desert storm battlefield with what it would take to conquer Moscow.
And morons like you are all excited to go to war with the Russian federation because of things the USSR did over 30 years ago.

It’s simpletons reliving their Cold War sense of purpose and that muh Russia attitude that will cause us to get nuked. At least we will have the pleasure of knowing DC and northern Virginia will get a rain of 10 to 15 nukes on day one.


58 posted on 04/05/2023 8:17:18 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Justa

Particularly in the last 20? Such a moronic comment, they spent about 20 years offering every hand of friendship you can imagine, only to have it slapped away with disdain and sarcasm.

But you’re probably right, if we just kick in the door, the whole rotten house would probably collapse. We’d take Moscow in two days. I wouldn’t even take winter clothing if we get started by June.


59 posted on 04/05/2023 8:20:21 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: hardspunned
We had the Comintern back then. Today we have the Western, woke, green, pervo globalist movement.

Right, and today a totalitarian warmongering Russian regime.

60 posted on 04/05/2023 8:31:36 AM PDT by tlozo (Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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