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Woman, 20, Fatally Shot by Upstate NY Homeowner After Pulling Into Wrong Driveway: Sheriff
New York Post ^ | April 17, 2023 | David Propper and Social Links for David Propper VIEW AUTHOR ARCHIVE EMAIL THE AUTHOR FOLLOW ON TWIT

Posted on 04/18/2023 2:38:10 AM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway

someone committing a crime

does not nullify my natural rights


61 posted on 04/18/2023 9:23:56 AM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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To: kiryandil

Might be a bot. Either way, they think they’re super lol. I don’t tolerate people like that in person. Enabling tyranny and cheerleading it. Pure evil.


62 posted on 04/18/2023 9:40:30 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: yldstrk; IamConservative
Where I live the sheriffs dept would likely side with the property owner. I have had similar happenstance. If the junction is not marked as a public access (street signage) it is private property and should be treated just like your living room. People that are lost need to learn to stay on the public right of way.
63 posted on 04/18/2023 10:34:31 AM PDT by Dust in the Wind (Vote anyway)
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To: Allegra

Ahhh...what is good for the goose...


64 posted on 04/18/2023 12:25:30 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will )
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To: null and void

Yup, you’re probably right.🤔


65 posted on 04/18/2023 12:38:15 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first, we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: Melinda in TN

Yes, my BIL is from E Tenn. He is super careful about it.


66 posted on 04/20/2023 12:05:03 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Rural people in E.TN know that nobody comes to your house without an appointment after dark. If there is a sign that says, “trespassers will be shot”, believe it. Rural people are the friendliest bunch alive, in the daylight. Different story after dark.


67 posted on 04/20/2023 12:54:22 PM PDT by Melinda in TN (AKA Tennessee Conservative)
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To: nickcarraway

This guy deserves the death penalty.


68 posted on 04/20/2023 9:16:09 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: vetvetdoug

Sadly, two shots at someone doing a perfectly legal activity is not “accidental.”

It’s fully on purpose.


69 posted on 04/20/2023 9:20:50 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Melinda in TN

So you shoot unarmed lost people?


70 posted on 04/20/2023 9:22:59 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: who knows what evil?

Everyone with a brain knows this, except you.

“In order for someone to be charged with trespassing, intent to be on the property unlawfully must be established. Typically unless you gave someone specific instructions to not enter your driveway, it will be hard to prove their have intentions of trespassing.

With the laws of trespassing established, it is important to note who is not a trespasser. Those who use your driveway briefly to turn around or reverse directions are not considered trespassers. Likewise, those who have the wrong address and accidentally use your driveway are not trespassers.”

https://topdriveway.com/questions/are-driveways-private-property-how-to-handle-trespassers/

I’d love to know how many UPS drivers you’ve knocked off, over the years, and if the number is small, you are nothing but hot air, apparently.


71 posted on 04/20/2023 9:28:29 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: central_va

No, never. Some might; not us.

With cell phones, not many people will knock on a door out in the country after dark anyway. What I was saying is that country people won’t go to the door after dark. Some have signs that trespassers will be shot. If that’s the case, believe them.


72 posted on 04/21/2023 2:04:18 AM PDT by Melinda in TN (AKA Tennessee Conservative)
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To: central_va

Oh, and if it’s dark and it’s a neighbor, we will go to the door. If we don’t know them, we don’t go to the door. If we don’t know them and they won’t go away, we call the Sheriff’s Dept. They will tell us that they will be there when they get time and if whoever is at the door gets in, shoot them. Most aren’t stupid enough to try to get in unless they are on dope or something. That’s the reality in rural country when you don’t have neighbors. Even in daylight, if somebody I don’t know comes to my door, I have a .38 in my pocket.

We are friendly in public but cautious at home because houses are far and few between.


73 posted on 04/21/2023 2:13:23 AM PDT by Melinda in TN (AKA Tennessee Conservative)
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To: Melinda in TN

The money he spends on legal fees would have been better used for a fence and auto gate opener. Woulda kept the dopers off his property while creating a clear demarc between his shoot/no-shoot zones.


74 posted on 04/21/2023 2:51:03 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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Woulda kept the dopers off his property while creating a clear demarc between his shoot/no-shoot zones.

What proof do you have that these kids were dopers?

75 posted on 04/21/2023 2:59:52 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: null and void

Pretty girl.

I just read another article about a pretty girl (20 years old) in Colorado that was killed as she was driving down the road and someone threw a rock at the car and struck her. I don’t know if the rock or the accident killed her. (Numerous other rock-throwing incidents happened that night in the general area, nobody caught, yet.)

That tragic incident probably won’t make national news.


76 posted on 04/21/2023 3:04:37 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: Melinda in TN

Back in college two buddies and I got in my truck to spend Thanksgiving weekend with some distant relatives of mine that lived near the college (Colorado).

Going up the winding roads trying to find their house in a fairly exclusive but rural area with roads that would turn into driveways. Got to the end of one road with a gated driveway at the end. Trying to turn around in the dark and I had one of the guys get out to watch my back end on the narrow gravel road with the ditch, etc.

The homeowner comes out to the gate with a gun and asks us what we were doing. I apologized and explained the situation to him. “Oh the Andersons? Hell, you’re never going to find them from here - let me get my car and I’ll lead the way to their house.”


77 posted on 04/21/2023 3:16:09 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: MD Expat in PA

Wisdom don’t need proof.

They were dopers, hanging out in his driveway getting high before moving to their ‘friend’s’ crash pad. Or they are just lying about the nearby friend.

Weed is not legal in NH. Young New England people have been cruising and toking since the 60s. Keeps the legal liability away from property owners and they don’t violate the rental agreement.

I’m rather amazed some FReepers can’t recognize the druggie in her recent photos.


78 posted on 04/21/2023 3:19:34 AM PDT by Justa (If where you came from is so great then why aren't Floridians moving there?)
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To: ConservativeMind; who knows what evil?
I’d love to know how many UPS drivers you’ve knocked off, over the years, and if the number is small, you are nothing but hot air, apparently.

I worked as a delivery driver for a fast casual restaurant. One evening just before 9PM, the latest we would deliver, I was sent on a delivery run. I got to the house which was at the top of a long unpaved driveway. I rang the doorbell and got no answer. I then opened the screen door to knock on the door in case the doorbell wasn’t working.

A man opened the door and angrily shouted at me, “What the hell do you want? Didn’t you see the no solicitation and no trespassing sign?”

I was wearing a uniform and had a lighted sign on the top of my car. I explained I had a delivery from (x-Bread) for (x-person) at this address. He slammed the door in my face.

I went back to my car to check the app on my phone and the GPS to confirm the address. The man came back out and yelled for me to leave, or he would get his gun. Of course, I left as fast as I could, even ended up scratching the side of my car backing out as the driveway was unlit and narrow and lined with overgrown shrubs.

But I called the store manager as I was driving back, and she called the customer who had placed the order.

It turned out that the woman used to live at that address but had moved but had never updated her address in the app when she placed the order, and she should have seen and confirmed the address when she placed the order.

The manager ended up re-making her order, packed several cookies at no charge and sent me back out to the correct address and the B didn’t even give me a tip. But at least I didn’t end up getting shot.

79 posted on 04/21/2023 3:22:47 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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To: Justa

You are full of it. Any by full of it, I don’t mean wisdom.


80 posted on 04/21/2023 3:25:07 AM PDT by MD Expat in PA (No. I am not a doctor nor have I ever played one on TV. The MD in my screen name stands for Maryland)
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