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NY schools banned from calling teams Warriors, Chiefs, Braves, using Native American mascots
New York Post ^ | April 18, 2023 | Carl Campanile

Posted on 04/18/2023 5:23:57 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain

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To: windsorknot
New York Crime Victims.

41 posted on 04/18/2023 6:27:58 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: John Milner

Meanwhile, the Atlanta Braves will keep their name with the support of the MLB commissioner and various Indian tribes.


42 posted on 04/18/2023 6:29:23 PM PDT by The people have spoken (Proud member of Hillary's basket of deplorables)
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To: Dragonspirit
The exception for tribal schools should be challenged. Make them choose full censorship or none instead of allowing them to virtue signal.

Are there any in New York? I'm thinking they're all out in the West.

43 posted on 04/18/2023 6:34:49 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Ciaphas Cain

I for one am happy to hear that public education is doing so well in New York that the NY Board of Reagents has time to deal with schools’ sports teams names.

“Our desire is to elevate people, not diminish them.” Since the Indians were admired for their fierceness and bravery, teams were named in their honor, not to diminish them. So no more elevation for the Indians.


44 posted on 04/18/2023 6:42:26 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: Ciaphas Cain

My high school teams in upstate NY were the Red Raiders. Looks like it is a goner.


45 posted on 04/18/2023 6:42:46 PM PDT by kabar
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To: norwaypinesavage; Ciaphas Cain

“‘Chief’ is not a Native American word, it’s a French word.”

Correct.

Brave:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/brave#etymonline_v_43999

Chief:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/chief#etymonline_v_47105

Warrior:
https://www.etymonline.com/word/warrior


46 posted on 04/18/2023 6:44:35 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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How ‘bout we celebrate trans culture and call them the eunuchs


47 posted on 04/18/2023 6:46:01 PM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: norwaypinesavage; Ciaphas Cain

chief - also a lengthy history in Scotland, which is one of the roots for the usage in new America.


48 posted on 04/18/2023 6:46:26 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: kabar

Mine was The Rampaging Negroes.

This country is lost.


49 posted on 04/18/2023 6:52:18 PM PDT by Fuzz (. )
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To: linMcHlp

One of the main reasons that Lamar Hunt named the Chiefs with that name was that the Mayor of Kansas City who sold Hunt on moving there was H. Roe Bartle and his nickname was Chief.

Unique amongst significant city Mayors, Battle was a full time Boy Scout Executive with the Heart of America Council. He had started an honorary camping society and fellowship within BSA called the Tribe of Mic-O-Say. His tribal rank was Chief and that was his nickname for decades: Chief Bartle.

The team, of course, saw the traffic opportunities with tribal headdress and the like, but Hunt confirmed this numerous times.

I was privileged to meet Roe Bartle a few times. His program was credited with creating a district with the highest percentage of Eagle Scouts in the country.


50 posted on 04/18/2023 6:53:26 PM PDT by KC Burke (Diversity, Inclusion and Equity is not another way to spell GOD but it is a way to spell DIE.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Yes, better those people and cultures are made invisible and finally forgotten once and for all! These rich white women and their savior complex. I would be pissed about this if I were an Indian.


51 posted on 04/18/2023 7:15:02 PM PDT by Codeflier (My voting days are over. Let it burn...give the people what they want good and hard.)
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To: Ciaphas Cain

Yes, by all means do away with names that honor and respect Native Americans.


52 posted on 04/18/2023 7:19:14 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: HYPOCRACY

RIFFS!!!!


53 posted on 04/18/2023 7:22:20 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: HYPOCRACY

Or The Lizzies.


54 posted on 04/18/2023 7:22:46 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MinorityRepublican

I believe there are 50 to 60 in NY. Quite a few on Long Island where many towns have Indian names.


55 posted on 04/18/2023 7:30:21 PM PDT by gcparent (God Bless America )
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To: KC Burke

Interesting; tx.

My understanding re the use of “chief” re the tribes (actually they are families, extended families, families who joined from other tribes, strays, captives) . . . is, that the colonists needed one or more terms to use, in order to identify leaders and sub-leaders (or to whom, the colonists chose to assign such titles).

Unfortunately for some tribes, the use of “chief” was part of a plot twist by some people who wrote some treaties designed to grab tribal land (of the moment). A person who may not actually be a *chief* in the minds of the tribe, would put his mark on the parchment where it read: *Chief Moving Cloud* . . . re some trade deal backed by the tribe’s land (of that moment) . . .

And the deal was valid in some colonial court (and back in Europe) . . . while the tribe was surprised to find, that the tribe had signed what turned out to not be the deal that the tribe had in mine - including, the tribe’s unhappiness about whom the colonialists had determined to be a so-called “chief.”

“Of the moment” means, that the ownership of land, varied from tribe to tribe, as a legal concept, and their definitions tended to be more fluid, for some others - seasonal, for some - it was their land, when they might return in 2 years (no matter that they had moved away for a long time).

One reference: books by Allan Eckert


56 posted on 04/18/2023 7:40:39 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Ciaphas Cain
Will local Fighting Whites franchises still be available?
57 posted on 04/18/2023 7:40:43 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Ciaphas Cain

No Indian words should be allowed to be used for cities, lakes, rivers, or other places. Empty the libraries of all books about Indians, and take all the old westerns off the TV. Will that satisfy all the virtue-signaling liberal white people who are always pushing this crap?


58 posted on 04/18/2023 7:54:27 PM PDT by euram (allALL)
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To: HYPOCRACY
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59 posted on 04/18/2023 7:55:43 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Ciaphas Cain
ruling by Albany education honchos.

Honchos? Honchos? The word is from Japanese 班長 (hanchō, “squad leader”).

Mention of American Indian fighters and leaders is forbidden, but in the first line the author insults* the entire nation of Japan. How long will this Nipponophobia stand?

*insult -> well, it is as insulting as warriors, braves or chiefs. Generally you pick something you respect as school mascot. My high school went medieval with their Knights mascot (and not the Sir Elton John type of knight, either).

60 posted on 04/18/2023 8:00:53 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Democrats' version of MAGA: Making America the Gulag Archipelago )
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