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Russian 4th Brigade Serviceman "Murz" & Igor Strelkov on Ukrainian Conflict: Everything sucks!
@WarTranslated ^ | 05/26/23 | @WarTranslated

Posted on 05/26/2023 5:43:31 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans

WarTranslated's Commentary:

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1661501189488254977/photo/1

"A serviceman of the 4th Brigade of the Russian forces Andrey "Murz" Morozov is under attack by patriots on Telegram for his negative forecasts. But he is not budging, insisting that Ukraine is preparing the battlefield for something that will inevitably lead to the most difficult catastrophe for Russia.

"His only hope is in drawing parallels with the 1942 Soviet retreat in the East which was followed by a counter-offensive.

"The exchange is very long, so below is just an excerpt from it."

Full link to Murz's comments: https://t.me/wehearfromyanina/1976

Translated excerpt:

Igor Girkin, former Defense Minister of the Donbass, long time FSB agent, and bonafide Russian terrorist, called Bakhmut a "pyrrhic" victory and predicts more disaster:

https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1660273337744982023/photo/1



TOPICS: News/Current Events; Russia; Ukraine
KEYWORDS: globalistpropaganda
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1 posted on 05/26/2023 5:43:31 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

These Russians obviously know nothing. On FR it is reported that everything is going swimmingly for Russia; Ukraine is on the brink of collapse.


2 posted on 05/26/2023 5:48:08 PM PDT by dominusobiscum (A Christians true heart can be revealed by how they treat others anonymously on discussion forums.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
When soldiers stop complaining, that's when you have a problem.

3 posted on 05/26/2023 6:15:46 PM PDT by Right_Wing_Madman
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To: dominusobiscum

Well, the Ukies have just been clobbered, big, in Artymovsk….and this is day 14 of huge missile attacks all over Ukraine, they get bigger every day…..are you still thinking Vlad is running out of missiles, tanks, ammo, etc….?Hint: he isn’t.


4 posted on 05/26/2023 6:18:00 PM PDT by delta7
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Weelllll

Ukraine and NATO had better be grateful for the 19th century structure of the Russian land forces, because thats a huge factor in their overall losses and problems.


5 posted on 05/26/2023 6:21:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
Here's what sucks -- fighting for Ukraine and facing certain death. In Artyomovsk, there may be the biggest graveyard of human fossils since WWII:

Prigozhin: We fought in Bakhmut against superior forces, destroyed about 50,000 Ukrainian Armed Forces and wounded up to 70,000

▪️ PMC "Wagner" had 3.2 times fewer dead than the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and about 2 times fewer wounded.
▪️ The PMC in Artyomovsk had 50,000 people at its best, and the Armed Forces of Ukraine - 82,000, and the ratio for the assault should be 3 to 1 for the attackers.
▪️During the operation, I chose 50,000 prisoners, 20% of them died, another 20% were injured.
▪️The goal of Artemovsk was not Artemovsk itself, but the Bakhmut Meat Grinder. And in Artemovsk, we destroyed everyone we were supposed to destroy, we completed the task.
▪️The task was completed due to the highest level of organization.
▪️We have our own: planes, helicopters, air defense, artillery, MLRS, reconnaissance and even our own satellite reconnaissance.

6 posted on 05/26/2023 6:26:35 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
https://vpk.name/en/720664_in-france-they-called-zelenskys-most-terrible-secret-in-the-conflict-in-ukraine.html

Valeurs Actuelles: the number of dead soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is Zelensky's worst secret

The number of dead soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is Zelensky's most terrible secret in this conflict, writes Valeurs Actuelles.

At the same time, since the end of the summer, the number of killed and wounded has increased sharply, and the number of conscripts has recently decreased significantly.

"From 40 to 60 percent of the first Ukrainian servicemen, whom we trained on French soil in 2022, no longer get in touch," one reliable source told our publication. "We think that most of them are silent because they have already died in battle." French instructors who have established contact with their Ukrainian students are limited only to assumptions about their fates. According to those who nevertheless decided to address this issue to the military authorities in Kiev, the topic causes only discontent among representatives of Ukraine. The death toll remains the most terrible secret of President Vladimir Zelensky, although, judging by all available external data, there is no doubt that since the end of summer, the number of dead and injured has increased dramatically. For example, we have just learned that the number of students has increased by 82% in a few months, as this status allows young people to avoid the ongoing mobilization in the country.

The latest numbers of conscription for the blue-yellow flag have significantly decreased compared to the beginning of hostilities. Despite the reinforcements, the ranks of the units are thinning. In nine brigades formed with the help of NATO for the future spring offensive, there are from 2.5 to three thousand people, whereas by the standards of the North Atlantic Alliance their number should be from five to eight thousand. Away from the eyes of journalists and media workers, the Ukrainian military are painting a "war picture" for their foreign partners, which looks more like raw information from the front than what Western news channels report without unnecessary details. In the Donbass throughout the winter, they confirm, their people were under constant onslaught of Russian troops. And the units located on the contact line were always in a state of readiness for battle against superior enemy forces because of "their absolute superiority."

Russian artillery is three times more

These testimonies correspond to the calculations of the balance of power made by the French military. According to them, Russians have about three times more artillery pieces in the Donbass than Ukrainians. Kiev is also suffering from another well-known problem: the arsenals of its allies have been depleted, and industrial capacities in the West are recovering too slowly. Today, Russian troops produce an average of 15 thousand shots a day, and Ukrainians respond with five thousand shots. Since most of the dead and wounded in this conflict are accounted for by artillery, some experts do not agree that the losses of the parties are equal. This point of view was previously held by American official sources, but they have already revised their forecasts. In January, they reported 100,000 dead and wounded on both sides. At the beginning of May, they were already talking about "at least 200,000 and possibly 250,000 killed and wounded." This is a confirmation that the "trench war" is especially bloody. News about constant losses also comes from Artemovsk.

"Yes, Ukrainians have fewer weapons, but they are much more effective and their servicemen use them more correctly," the supporters of the theory of "equal" forces object. They argue their claims with the presence in Kiev of French Caesar artillery installations and American HIMARS multiple launch rocket systems. Those who downplay the effect of these weapons ("there are too few of them") claim that over the past eight months Ukrainians have lost at least twice as many people as Russians. Thus, in any case, the balance of power has changed compared to the beginning of the conflict.

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Strategic depth…

In the "battle of attrition" (the depletion of the enemy's human and material potential, in military terms), Russia has a serious advantage over Ukraine. Its population is three and a half times larger (143 million versus 41 million). However, the question of the "permissibility" of deaths is probably more sensitive for Russians. As long as there are enough volunteers called up on very attractive financial terms to replenish the ranks, Vladimir Putin will undoubtedly be satisfied, and the generals will have to adjust their strategy accordingly. In early May, during a speech to Congress, General Christopher Cavoli, the commander of American troops in Europe and the military head of NATO, tempered the ardor of an official who spoke approvingly about the latest assessment of Russian losses made by the Pentagon. "Most of the Russian army has not suffered in this conflict," Cavoli said.

7 posted on 05/26/2023 6:27:11 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
President Putin is standing for -- the Judeo Christian values that made Western Civilization great. That's why you and your ilk hate him and Russia so much:

Putin delivers speech on the destruction of Western society and it will blow you away!

8 posted on 05/26/2023 6:28:07 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
This perspective is a cogent way to think of the battle of Bahkmut.

I am not saying it is right or wrong, but it is consistent and fits available information.

The problem is, both sides have the strongest of incentives to lie about casualties and logistics.

Therefore, it is very difficult for outside observers, such as us, to know who achieved what.

With all the intelligence gathering on both sides, I expect the DOD has a pretty good handle on it (if Biden has not infected them with his cluelessness).

The Russians should have a good handle on it, but their problems with fear of reporting bad news might handicap them.

9 posted on 05/26/2023 6:33:36 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Kazan

Have you accepted Putin as your Lord and Savior?

And nothings says Christian like attacking another country killing its people,and taking their lands!


10 posted on 05/26/2023 6:35:50 PM PDT by dominusobiscum (A Christians true heart can be revealed by how they treat others anonymously on discussion forums.)
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To: dominusobiscum

“... nothings says Christian like attacking another country killing its people,and taking their lands!”

Is this about Cortez and the conquest ?


11 posted on 05/26/2023 10:53:09 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Ukraine and NATO had better be grateful for the 19th century structure of the Russian land forces,

You do realize that are talking about about 1801 thru 1900 when you say the 19th century, right?

The 2oth century was 1901 thru 2000.

We are currently in the 21st century 2001 thru 2100.

12 posted on 05/26/2023 10:55:37 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: marktwain

This article from the New Yorker has a profile of a battalion that was at
Kherson and near Bakhmut.

The commander says 80 percent are replacements. Yikes !

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/05/29/two-weeks-at-the-front-in-ukraine


13 posted on 05/26/2023 10:58:43 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Robert DeLong

Yup.


14 posted on 05/26/2023 11:54:28 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: marktwain

These are both Russian sources, so if they’re lying, it would be to make things less horrible.


15 posted on 05/26/2023 11:59:19 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Kazan

Putin is a communist and a leader of a nation that is a leading member of the Communist bloc which includes China, North Korea, Cuba, etc.

And Russia is a country where only 7% of the population attends church once a month, and with an army that is documented, even to today, as practicing systematic sadism and homosexual rape on itself.

Putin uses Christianity, or at least the degenerate Russian Orthodox version, for propaganda purposes. It appeals to the degenerate population of patriotic drunks in Russia as well as the fake “right wing” Christians in the USA who don’t actually read their Bibles, know any theology, or really practice their faith (just like the people of Russia).


16 posted on 05/27/2023 12:03:25 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Reverend Wright

No, but history does rhyme.


17 posted on 05/27/2023 12:03:30 AM PDT by dominusobiscum (A Christians true heart can be revealed by how they treat others anonymously on discussion forums.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman
When soldiers stop complaining, that's when you have a problem.

A Sergeant Major I knew well in Iraq used to say the same thing.

18 posted on 05/27/2023 12:03:49 AM PDT by Allegra (Free Kiryandil! )
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To: delta7
and this is day 14 of huge missile attacks all over Ukraine, they get bigger every da

This has been the narrative for months, when Russian propagandists on this site promised both Ukraine and Europe would freeze to death during the winter, Ukraine due to bombing, Europe due to gas prices.

19 posted on 05/27/2023 12:05:58 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Right_Wing_Madman

Strelkov has done more than complain, he’s accurately predicted the collapse of the Russian offensive on Kyiv, the fall of Kherson and Kharkiv, and currently predicts an even larger catastrophe once Ukraine begins its next offensive.


20 posted on 05/27/2023 12:07:25 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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