[statered]

I’m just saying the moral indignation is bunk.

If folks want to talk “real politik” let’s do it. I am suggesting we have an actual intellectual argument about this stuff.

When people are so emotionally attached to their presuppositions it makes it difficult to do that.

[Boogieman]

“I am suggesting we have an actual intellectual argument about this stuff.”

Then go make another thread where you can have that argument.