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In gun law push, Tennessee governor's office memo says NRA prefers to 'round up mentally ill people'
Associated Press ^ | June 2, 2023 | KIMBERLEE KRUESI and JONATHAN MATTIS

Posted on 06/02/2023 11:21:52 AM PDT by libstripper

ASHVILLE, Tenn. (AP) — Tennessee Gov. Bill Lee's administration accused the National Rifle Association of wanting to use involuntary commitment laws “to round up mentally ill people and deprive them of other liberties,” according to documents drafted by the Republican's staffers as part of their initial attempt to pass a gun control proposal earlier this year.

The memos, provided by Lee's office as part of a public records request, reveal a rare criticism of the powerful gun lobby made by the Republican governor. Lee has previously praised the NRA's efforts to protect the Second Amendment but has since faced opposition from the group as he works to pass gun control legislation in response to a deadly Nashville school shooting that took place in late March.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; billlee; gopestablishment; guncontrol; gungrabbers; kaba; lee; nra; rino; rinos; rkba; rtkba; secondamendment; tn; uniparty
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To: Dutch Boy

They’ll get that chance, eventually.

And while we might lose the battle, Jesus wins the war!


21 posted on 06/02/2023 11:52:42 AM PDT by ro_dreaming (Who knew "Idiocracy", "1984", "Enemy of the State", and "Person of Interest" would be non-fiction?)
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To: ClearCase_guy
you said..”a much better place.”

Ya ... but was it as colorful? ... and diverse and ... and entertaining?

In the old days we had to go to the movies to watch zombies now we just stroll down the street.

In the old days only old ladies had “blue” hair ... now we have blue ... and orange and green and purple everywhere.

In the old days we had to pay 2 bits to see tattooed sideshows with ringed up pierced natives .. now it's free and in your face all the time.

In the old days only criminals were locked up for crime, now we all have a fair shot of getting locked up .. even for self defense.

In the old days you needed to be able to actually DO something productive to live a middle class life. Now just check the right box on the HR form.

In the old days teachers could spell .. and read .. now they just have to pay dues.

I've got more but I think you see it now ...
treating mentally ill people like ... well ... mentally ill people would really throw a wrench in the gears.

I like watching the zombies best .. you don't want to have to go back to the movies do you?

22 posted on 06/02/2023 11:58:39 AM PDT by 1of10 (be vigilant , be strong, be safe, be 1 of 10 .)
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To: libstripper

The Church does not want the manifesto released, for very good reasons.


23 posted on 06/02/2023 12:00:05 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: Brilliant

Ditto....


24 posted on 06/02/2023 12:01:21 PM PDT by MrRelevant
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To: libstripper

I’ve never heard NRA say anything quite like that. Perhaps he could enlighten us? (don’t hold your breath)


25 posted on 06/02/2023 12:02:36 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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To: livius
"Me too. I remember living through “de-institutionalization” in NYC and CA too. A nightmare."

It still is.

26 posted on 06/02/2023 12:06:36 PM PDT by Joe Brower ("Might we not live in a nobler dream than this?" -- John Ruskin)
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To: libstripper

27 posted on 06/02/2023 12:07:22 PM PDT by budj
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To: livius

De institutionalizing the mentally ill, giving them the personal responsibility to make sane decisions and take their meds without assistance or a watchful eye, releasing them to live in the streets and subways, just like giving the drug addicts the drugs, a place to do it and paraphernalia they need to do it. This is the rat way


28 posted on 06/02/2023 12:09:45 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: libstripper

I’d argue...stop selling guns to Democrats but it would be redundant.


29 posted on 06/02/2023 12:10:13 PM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: BenLurkin

Right on !


30 posted on 06/02/2023 12:14:11 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: libstripper

If mental illness is enough to have your firearms confiscated, it’s enough to have you committed for observation.


31 posted on 06/02/2023 12:25:44 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (It's science and therefore cannot be questioned!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They’ll just do like the Soviet Union, and declare anyone opposing the System as mentally ill.


32 posted on 06/02/2023 12:31:11 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: libstripper

If people are mentally ill to the point of being dangerous to themselves, to others, or property then they should be removed from the general population.
By force if necessary.


33 posted on 06/02/2023 12:33:44 PM PDT by The Free Engineer
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To: babble-on; All

“The Church does not want the manifesto released, for very good reasons.”

The main reason I’ve seen is the argument that the manifesto could give other potential mass killers a blueprint of how to do it. However, that ignores the most important other side. If the manifesto gives potential mass murderers a roadmap to doing it, it also gives the authorities a roadmap to how to stop it. In addition, and more important, it most likely shows the mental processes the feminoid went through and how her action was probably a manifestation of the transgender movement’s bitter, violent hatred for Christianity. That proved this was a horrible anti-Christian act of terrorism which would show what the transgender movement is really all about, making the Biden administration’s support for that movement to be perceived as the abomination it is.


34 posted on 06/02/2023 12:37:44 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Round Earther

“It all depends on who gets to decide who is mentally ill.”

The process for determining if a person is safe from him/her self or to others, has been in effect for many years. And it is not taken as just someone grabbing a person and throwing them into a padded cell. There is a process:

https://www.hca.wa.gov/assets/program/fact-sheet-involuntary-treatment-act-2022.pdf

We have people on the streets that need assistance and they are a danger. If they get their hands on a gun, a knife, a machete, a whip, or even something as common as a rock, they become a danger to others. And if they can get into a car, they can do a variety of damage. But blaming the NRA using detainment to get that help for the application of gun laws is not being up front.

“...to round up mentally ill people and deprive them of other liberties...”

Of course if a person is determined insane, they shouldn’t be allowed some of the freedoms they might have if they are sane. And this process takes only 120 hours, less than a week to determine the safety of a person for everyone’s protection. Lee is just using it wrong for the wrong reasons or he’s dumber than dirt.

wy69


35 posted on 06/02/2023 12:37:59 PM PDT by whitney69
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To: Brilliant

As with most of the rhetoric that the left employs that is way more sensational than true, they make taking care of the mentally ill sound like it’s a bad thing.

I guess they recognize that it would mean taking nearly every leftist off the streets.


36 posted on 06/02/2023 12:39:37 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now... )
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To: libstripper
There was no mass shooting problem in the US until Congress passed the Community Mental Health Act of 1963, resulting in free-range crazy people.

OF COURSE I'd rather see mentally ill people treated in a mental hospital than give up my means of defense against criminals and the mentally ill. What sane person wouldn't?

37 posted on 06/02/2023 1:06:14 PM PDT by Sooth2222 (“Toute nation a le gouvernement qu’elle mérite.” /"Every nation has the government it deserves.” )
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To: libstripper

Sounds good to me but do they have the prison space for all those liberals?


38 posted on 06/02/2023 1:58:20 PM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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To: libstripper

So he’s saying that people who are too crazy to have guns are fine to have around everything else—knives, hammers, chainsaws, machetes, crowbars, rat poison...


39 posted on 06/02/2023 1:58:36 PM PDT by _longranger81
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To: libstripper

Have the legislature give Nashville and Memphis to Maryland. They were made for each other!


40 posted on 06/02/2023 5:16:43 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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