[AnotherUnixGeek]

Saying “we can’t change it, so we should accept it” is surrender.

Going into an election fight with one hand tied behind your back is surrender. That's what Republicans have done in the last two national elections.

[rlmorel]

Just saying. You think we can cheat as long and as hard as they can?

A life of experience has told me we cannot. It invades the fiber of who we are.

Saying that we are going to harvest and go full blown mail in without any changes just opens the floodgates for them.