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To: ChicagoConservative27
What else can the judge due on this? Seriously, if these are or were classified government documents, as opposed to personal documents, seems like they should be kept underwraps. Otherwise, if one of the documents is, as alleged, DoD attack plan against Iran, should it be released by Trump or anyone? Purportedly, Trump apparently said he didn't declassify it, yet he still had it. I'd love to hear an explanation on that and how he thinks that document is a personal presidential paper.

Trump can make himself a martyr out of this but anyone looking at the details, especially anyone who has had or has a security clearance, is a veteran, etc., will at best cringe at what he has done.

And again, just because others have done the same, is not excuse. They all should be held to same standard and prosecuted.

4 posted on 06/19/2023 10:26:57 AM PDT by Reno89519 (Donald Tantrum? No Thank You. We Can Do Better! I am a Veteran Supporting Veteran DeSantis.)
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To: Reno89519

“What else can the judge due on this? Seriously, if these are or were classified government documents, as opposed to personal documents, seems like they should be kept underwraps.”

No document there is classified and the government does not claim it was. The indictment said “stamped classified”, not “classified”.
Devon Nunez, former Chair of the Intelligence committee said this is deliberate obfuscation. They do NOT have a document regarding an invasion of Iran. They wiretapped him, and hear his discussing the concept, but do not have this alleged document.
Nunez said they did not charge him under the law regarding handling of classified documents, because that has already been to the Supreme Court and it would conflict with the superior Presidential Records act. So they charged him under the WWI Espionage Act which criminalizes discussions of “national defense information”, vs “classified information”.

This criminal farce of a prosecution is going down hard soon. Jack Smith who lives in Holland will yet again suffer a reverse of the full Supreme Court.


23 posted on 06/19/2023 10:49:34 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: Reno89519; All

There are no attack plans for Iran. That’s nonsense. If there are plans then it is the plans that these fools sent to Trump after the incident in Iraq where Iran sent bombs to the desert and Trump was smart enough not to follow their moronic advice. You can be sure that plan would still be playing out in Iran if Trump were onboard. No active military plan is going to be viable for 5 years but the out of control complex isn’t even sharp enough to reality that.


36 posted on 06/19/2023 11:15:13 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me,)
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To: Reno89519

DeSantis backer?


40 posted on 06/19/2023 11:20:56 AM PDT by lilypad
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To: Reno89519
They all should be held to same standard and prosecuted.

But they won't be. We all know this. We all have absolutely no doubt as to who the law applies to and who it doesn't. The very fact that we have a 2 tiered justice system in America tells me the Constitution is nothing more than an old piece of paper. The time is over for playing by the rules. Especially playing by THEIR rules.

44 posted on 06/19/2023 11:47:23 AM PDT by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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