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Well said.
1 posted on 06/21/2023 6:52:03 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

There is the matter of much of what is now Western Poland that used to be much of eastern Germany.

Poland might not wish to get its pre-WW2 borders back.

I should add that in the 17th century, Poland used to extend far to the east.


2 posted on 06/21/2023 7:05:47 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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To: delta7

You people who support Russia constantly search for “reasons” why an attack on Ukraine os justified.

You love to produce old maps or historical stories, arguing that Ukraine really “belongs” to Russia and the like.

Now it’s that Poland shouldn’t sorry Ukraine because Ukraine never “apologized” for past wrongs.

EXCEPT for one little thing, Poland wholeheartedly supports Ukraine and earned of the Russian invasion long before it happened.

And that’s because Poland knows that Putin is a no good pos that has designs on Poland.

But you come on here with a ridiculous argument that Poland should divide Ukraine with Russia. Which would be Poland cutting its own throat. But hey you types constantly open your big mouths to speak for everyone else in the world.

Poland would tell you to go to hell.


3 posted on 06/21/2023 7:06:15 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: delta7

We are on a pathway that would take a world war, far worse war than anything we have ever experienced, to set things right and eliminate globablism.

I don’t think we have the will to wage this war to start a world over with just two people again.


4 posted on 06/21/2023 7:06:53 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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5 posted on 06/21/2023 7:07:29 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: delta7

I think the Poles know enough to let sleeping dogs lie.


6 posted on 06/21/2023 7:08:18 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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To: delta7

The EU will keep Poland inline so Ukraine can hold out.


8 posted on 06/21/2023 7:15:13 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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To: delta7

“ethnic cleansing under Bandara.”

Bandara was in a German prison camp when that happened.


9 posted on 06/21/2023 7:15:28 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: delta7

The correct solution is for Russia, the successor state to the USSR, to renounce Stalin’s 1945 annexations and to give Western Ukraine back to Poland (or Austria).


10 posted on 06/21/2023 7:16:30 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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To: delta7

Poles and Ukrainians share a hatred for Russian territorial lust.


11 posted on 06/21/2023 7:17:49 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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“The hatred of Bandara is deeply embedded and it is against everyone who is not Ukrainian – Russian, Polish, Hungarian, Greek.”

Very true, and I remember when blacks from the US and UK went to Ukraine as mercenaries at the very beginning of the war, they were treated like crap by the locals (Bandarites). They simply couldn’t believe the treatment, considering that they were putting their lives on the line for Ukraine (what they didn’t know was they’d be the first of the cannon fodder, LOL).


15 posted on 06/21/2023 7:35:41 PM PDT by BobL
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To: delta7
Well said nonsense. I have relatives in Poland. There are a handful of people, mainly descendants of Poles who lived before WWII in Volhynia, who raise this as an issue. Others find the Bandera references in Ukraine distasteful, but that's about it. They also recognize that many Ukrainians simply do not believe the stories about Bandera atrocities and regard them as Soviet propaganda, despite the fact that they are true.

The overwhelming majority of Poles recognize that nothing is more important than seeing Russia ejected from as much of Ukraine as possible. Any differences between Poland and Ukraine can be settled amicably, while nothing can be settled with Russia, which has simply reverted to its historical mean of being a barbarous looting empire.

16 posted on 06/21/2023 7:41:21 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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‘Polish’ jokes:

https://www.lysator.liu.se/jokes/polish2.html

“Q: Did you know that Poland just bought 10,000 Septic Tanks?
A: As soon as they learn how to drive ‘em, they are going to invade Russia.”


17 posted on 06/21/2023 7:44:47 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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To: delta7; Williams; gleeaikin; All

You neo-soviet fanboys and other pro-china enthusiasts are not so clever.
You have so much bad conscious about your illegal and botched invasion of Ukraine that you try to find excuses for it every single day! This is getting hilarious.

FIRST you were attacking the “Nazis” in Ukraine/
Even though they are not represented in the Ukrainian Parliament, and knowing Zelensky is Jewish and some within his family have suffered under the german nazis.

THEN, Putin changed his excuse. It was just a question of protecting Pro-Russians in Donbas, etc.

THEN, it was to wage war against the “satanists”, a holy religious war!

THEN, it was a war exclusively against the expansion of
“NATO”, which is a defensive alliance against Russian expansionism.
But when Finland joined NATO, (and soon Sweden), then Putin said that was no problem at all! He said any nations are free to join any organisation they want! So NATO wasn’t a problem anymore...

THEN; Putin found and old french map, and said that the invasion of Ukraine by Russia had to do with old historial frontiers and borders!

THEN...
What will next excuse be?
That Ukraine is the one sending secret UFO’s spying on Russia, and thus must be de-ufozied?

The Kremlin has become a madhouse filled with demented clowns running all over the place. Let’s pray for the Russian people so they can get rid of their deep state nutcases.


19 posted on 06/21/2023 7:46:32 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: delta7

It is very important to realize the misery of the Russian/Ukraine conflict stems from Ukrainian elections that were not trustworthy.


23 posted on 06/21/2023 8:18:23 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (Sandy Berger - $50,000 fine + 2 years probation + 100 hours community service + clearance suspended)
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To: delta7

YEA!

good ol’ convicted felon Martin Armstrong is back on FR shillin’ for the russkies again!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_A._Armstrong

In 1999, Japanese fraud investigators accused Armstrong of collecting money from Japanese investors, improperly commingling these funds with funds from other investors, and using the fresh money to cover losses he had incurred while trading.[13] United States prosecutors called it a three-billion-dollar Ponzi scheme.[14] Allegedly assisting Armstrong in his scheme was the Republic New York Corporation, which produced false account statements to reassure Armstrong’s investors. In 2001, the bank agreed to pay US$606 million as restitution for its part in the scandal.[14]

Armstrong was indicted in 1999 and ordered by Judge Richard Owen to turn over fifteen million dollars in gold bars and antiquities bought with the fund’s money; the list included bronze helmets and a bust of Julius Caesar.[15][16] Armstrong produced some of the items but claimed the others were not in his possession; this led to several contempt of court charges brought by the SEC and the CFTC, for which he served seven years in jail until he reached a plea bargain with federal prosecutors.[17][18][19] Under the terms of the agreement, Armstrong admitted to deceiving corporate investors and improperly commingling client funds—actions that according to prosecutors resulted in commodities losses of more than seven hundred million dollars—and was sentenced to five years in prison.[20][15]

He was released from federal custody on 2 September 2011 after serving a total of eleven years behind bars.[21][22]

The case against Armstrong was finally closed in 2017, with the distribution of about $80 million to claim holders by the receiver, according to court filings.[23] Armstrong appealed the refusal of the receiver to transport his remaining possessions from storage lockers in New York and Pennsylvania to him in Florida, but the appeal failed in 2019. Concerning his felony conviction, Armstrong is “unrepentant”, according to Bloomberg.[1]
Hidden rare coins cache

In 2014, a day laborer sold a box of 58 rare coins—which he said he had found while clearing out the basement of a house in New Jersey—to a Philadelphia thrift shop for $6,000. Three years later, in 2017, when the thrift shop announced they were to auction the coins—valued at $2.5 million—Armstrong came forward to declare himself to be the rightful owner. He claimed that he had hidden the coins in his mother’s old house to take them “off the books” in anticipation of the public offering of his firm. The thrift shop sued Armstrong, asking the court to declare the thrift shop as rightful owners while Armstrong counter-sued, also seeking ownership. In 2019 the US government found out about the coins and claimed them as part of the treasure hoard Armstrong had refused to hand over in 1999, and for which he had served seven years in jail for contempt. (In addition to rare coins, the treasure hoard—valued at $12.9 million—included 102 gold bars, 699 gold coins, and an ancient bust of Julius Caesar.)[24][25]

Armstrong was deposed and, according to Receiver Alan M. Cohen, Armstrong admitted hiding the coins. However, Armstrong’s attorneys said in a court filing that Armstrong did not make this admission. The auction house now possesses the coins and the US government has filed suit to take possession.[24][25]


24 posted on 06/21/2023 8:31:24 PM PDT by catnipman (In a post-covid world, ALL "science" is now political science: stolen elections have consequences)
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To: delta7

Bkmk


36 posted on 06/21/2023 10:01:45 PM PDT by swingdoc
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To: delta7

Silly stuff. Like most people, most countries — Poland included — have the sense to place current interests ahead of old grievances. Poland supports Ukraine because it is the best way to check Russia, which is an existential threat to Poland’s freedom.


38 posted on 06/22/2023 4:10:45 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: delta7

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39 posted on 06/22/2023 4:30:11 AM PDT by gattaca (Either you will control your government, or government will control you. Ronald Reagan)
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