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Ukraine plays “Light Brigade” with British advice
Asia Times ^

Posted on 06/23/2023 4:01:30 AM PDT by FarCenter

American and European military observers in Ukraine described the Ukraine Army’s efforts of the past two days as a “suicide mission” that violated the basic rules of military tactics. “If you want to conduct an offensive and you have a dozen brigades and a few dozen tanks, you concentrate them and try to break through. The Ukrainians have been running around in five different directions,” complained a senior European officer.

“We tried to tell them to stop these piecemeal tactics, define a main thrust with proper infantry support and then do what they can,” the officer added.

“They were trained by the British and they’re playing Light Brigade,” the officer added, referring to the 1854 disaster at the Battle of Balaclava when misreported orders sent British cavalry into massed cannon fire.

Ukraine’s tanks charged directly into minefields without deploying mine-clearing vehicles first, contributing to the loss of 38 tanks during the night of June 8, including numerous of the newly delivered Leopard II tanks.


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1 posted on 06/23/2023 4:01:30 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: FarCenter

“… The Ukrainians have been running around in five different directions,…”
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So the meat can be ground at different locations. More death and maiming that way. And more western military equipment can be destroyed in a shorter period. This will result in much more demand for production from the military industrial complex. THE LOBBYIST CASH IS FLOWING IN WASHINGTON!

All according to plan. The UKRAINE PROJECT rolls on.


2 posted on 06/23/2023 4:12:44 AM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX’)
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To: House Atreides
So the meat can be ground at different locations. More death and maiming that way

Right, done on purpose by Ukrainians. Moronic

3 posted on 06/23/2023 4:18:11 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: tlozo

Whatever it is, I see that the weaklings in Europe are trying to drag Ukraine into NATO with the “attack on one is an attack on all” mantra. It was my understanding that when we had a real President, one Ronald Reagan, the promise was made to Gorbachev that we would not allow NATO to be on Russia’s border. Yet another broken promise. As Bismarck said about the Balkans, “they are not worth the life of a single Pomeranian Grenadier”.


4 posted on 06/23/2023 4:26:02 AM PDT by laconic
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To: tlozo

I’ll take 10 pounds of lean ground 🥩 chuck. Chop, chop!


5 posted on 06/23/2023 4:33:35 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: House Atreides; FarCenter; Travis McGee

Bracken’s comment on the highly vaunted Ukrainian counteroffensive.

https://gab.com/Matt_Bracken/posts/110581736883769276


6 posted on 06/23/2023 4:42:07 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FarCenter

...Ukraine’s tanks charged directly into minefields without deploying mine-clearing vehicles first, contributing to the loss of 38 tanks during the night of June 8, including numerous of the newly delivered Leopard II tanks...

But, that MUST have been what they were trained to do during their six week course


7 posted on 06/23/2023 4:46:44 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: FarCenter

The “ Blame Game” is underway


8 posted on 06/23/2023 4:49:42 AM PDT by silverleaf (It's not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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To: House Atreides
--- "much more demand for production from the military industrial complex. THE LOBBYIST CASH IS FLOWING IN WASHINGTON!"


That is the "event" in Ukraine, like unto the "event" with mRNA injections, like unto the howls that the "oceans are boiling," and more. Money. Send money, Send lots of money. And if you haven't actually got the cash, just put it on a credit card. $32,000,000,000,000.00 and growing. For the children.... Or whales. Or the damn corrupt Democrats, RINOs and their EU equivalents.

9 posted on 06/23/2023 4:56:57 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Not just on June 8

They have continued the same tactics over and over again, sending in live troops to charge over the same path as the dead before them, exposed infantry diving into trenches filled with corpses, panicked armor driving over their own mines or even over their own support vehicles trying to escape


10 posted on 06/23/2023 5:07:05 AM PDT by silverleaf (It's not propaganda just because you disagree with it. )
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To: laconic
drag Ukraine into NATO

Right, like ANY country is "dragged" into NATO. Okay

the promise was made to Gorbachev that we would not allow NATO to be on Russia’s border.

The treaty saying that is... It doesn't exist.

11 posted on 06/23/2023 5:07:26 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: FarCenter

It has really been disgusting watching Team Uke Corruption cheering on this wholesale slaughter of young Ukrainian boys. Only a fool would have thought counter, counter, counteroffensive 2.0 would have any effect on this stalemated quagmire. I wish them luck in washing that blood from their hands.


12 posted on 06/23/2023 5:14:49 AM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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I just watched a video that made me sick to my stomach. Russians pushed a squad of Ukrainians out of a trench area. They ran and crawled into an APC and drove across the field towards a road. Right before they made it to the road the APC hit a mine and there was a huge explosion. Parts of the APC flew a 100 feet in the air. I doubt anyone survived. Too bad Biden, Soros, Linda Graham and Nuland weren't riding in the APC. The world would be a better place.
13 posted on 06/23/2023 6:01:05 AM PDT by Rdct29 (The Democrats Are The New Nazi Party )
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To: tlozo; laconic
Right, like ANY country is "dragged" into NATO.

Finland (which somehow survived the Cold War nonaligned) would be a good example of a country dragged into NATO against the interests of the common people living there...Sweden is another.

14 posted on 06/23/2023 6:09:50 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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Except I read that polls in both places showed it was very popular with the “common people”. Whether it’s a good decision remains to be seen.

Anyway, I think NATO’s obsolete & should be replaced with as many as maybe three alliances.


15 posted on 06/23/2023 6:17:26 AM PDT by Reily (!!)
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Its called ‘manufacturing consent’ and the neo-liberal West is very adept at it.


16 posted on 06/23/2023 6:28:27 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: FarCenter

Lord Cardigan approves this message.


17 posted on 06/23/2023 6:35:33 AM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: FarCenter
American and European military observers in Ukraine described the Ukraine Army’s efforts of the past two days as a “suicide mission” that violated the basic rules of military tactics.

Well, given that Ukraine was forced by the Biden regime and its NATO puppet masters to launch the offensive, this quite convenient scapegoating.

18 posted on 06/23/2023 9:07:13 AM PDT by Kazan
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How many neocon morons here hyped this counteroffensive and promised Ukrainian success?

Where did they get that delusion from? From neocon think tanks like the Institute for the Study of War and from Biden regime and neocons spreading propaganda in the mainstream media.

It's as ridiculous to pin the blame on the Ukrainian military, which does absolutely nothing without Biden regime and NATO consent, for this debacle as it is for Deep State to come up with ridiculous lies about the destruction of the Nord Stream pipelines.

19 posted on 06/23/2023 9:12:26 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: mac_truck
Finland (which somehow survived the Cold War nonaligned) would be a good example of a country dragged into NATO against the interests of the common people living there...Sweden is another.

Surprise, Putin's invasion of Ukraine has consequences, Finland realized that its international treaties with russia recognizing its borders are worthless.

Finnish Support for NATO Membership Jumps to 76% in Latest Poll

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-05-09/finnish-support-for-nato-membership-jumps-to-76-in-latest-poll#xj4y7vzkg

20 posted on 06/23/2023 9:22:14 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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