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To: Prince of Space
The DOJ has admitted there were no classified documents in that meeting.

That's not true. The DOJ was not at the meeting and has no idea what material was present. If there were classified docs as Trump implied, the DOJ does not have them. They are doing this to portray Trump as a loose cannon who was disclosing national secrets. If the Judge allows this recording at the trial, they will play the tape where Trump implies the disclosure of classified material. Trump and his attorneys will have the opportunity to say there was no classified material, it was just bravado. It's an easy sell here at FR, but a much tougher sell to a jury.

7 posted on 06/27/2023 11:47:26 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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To: ETCM
Trump and his attorneys will have the opportunity to say there was no classified material, it was just bravado. It's an easy sell here at FR, but a much tougher sell to a jury.

It's strange and sad how bravado and sarcasm are subtleties that are (currently) lost to or wasted on the general population. Is it a sign that the general population is getting seriously dumbed down? Humor and irony need an audience with a shared sense of history and cultural context for them to make any sort of sense. A joke isn't funny if you have to stop and patiently explain it. Whoooosh.

8 posted on 06/28/2023 12:03:19 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: ETCM

https://www.reuters.com/article/iran/obama-says-risky-to-attack-iran-wants-diplomatic-fix-idINDEE81406Y20120206


10 posted on 06/28/2023 12:20:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: ETCM

This is a criminal matter. The prosecution will have the burden of showing beyond a reasonable doubt, not by a preponderance of the evidence, that each element of each charge has been satisfied under that standard of proof. To the extent, if any, that the charges are based on Trump’s alleged disclosure of classified material in the audiotaped meeting, the prosecution will have a problem. Trump will testify that the material he held in his hand was not classified; and unless the other participants in that meeting testify to the contrary, the audiotape will be the only countervailing evidence. Under those circumstances, if I were a juror, I would find that the prosecution had failed to satisfy its burden of proof.


22 posted on 06/28/2023 1:16:05 AM PDT by p. henry
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To: ETCM

Oh I disagree. I think just about any jury in South Florida will readily buy that Trump was just holding up some random papers as a rhetorical flourish and that the papers weren’t really classified. If the DOJ wants to claim they really were classified documents then they’ll need to identify specifically which ones.


33 posted on 06/28/2023 3:23:59 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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To: ETCM

The DOJ has admitted there were no classified documents in that meeting.
That’s not true. The DOJ was not at the meeting and has no idea what material was present. If there were classified docs as Trump implied, the DOJ does not have them. They are doing this to portray Trump as a loose cannon who was disclosing national secrets. If the Judge allows this recording at the trial, they will play the tape where Trump implies the disclosure of classified material. Trump and his attorneys will have the opportunity to say there was no classified material, it was just bravado. It’s an easy sell here at FR, but a much tougher sell to a jury.>>> A real Jury would ask for the documents. No documents no indictment. Lets read the actual unreadacted “classified” espionage. Oh you can’t read it. no indictment. acquited of all charges.


48 posted on 06/28/2023 5:30:54 AM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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