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To: MinorityRepublican

Another freeper mentioned how stolen isn’t the correct term. The land was conquered.

My thoughts - almost EVERY square inch on God’s green earth has been conquered at some point. Except for Antarctica I suppose - which was discovered and divided up peacefully.

So far.


6 posted on 07/05/2023 12:13:21 AM PDT by 21twelve (Ever Vigilant. Never Fearful.)
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To: 21twelve

6. Penguins object! Return Antartica to them.


22 posted on 07/05/2023 1:24:55 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: 21twelve

A lot of the land was purchased. Complaints should be addressed to those we bought it from.


24 posted on 07/05/2023 1:40:30 AM PDT by skr (Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people. - Proverbs 14:34)
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To: 21twelve
”The land was conquered.”

The Sioux took at least part of the Black Hills from the Crow and Arikara. Conquest is only a problem when the white guys do it.

37 posted on 07/05/2023 3:54:14 AM PDT by Flag_This
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To: 21twelve

This is wrong. In the Ft Laramie treaty the US granted sole ownership of the area including the Black Hills to the Lakota. Then gold was discovered in the hills which led the Congress to pass a new law depriving the Lakota of their treaty rights, and even ownership. The Supreme Court in 1980 ultimately recognized this unlawful taking, declared it to be one of the most egregious injustices ever perpetrated by the government, and ordered the government to make “just compensation” for the land. The US offered a settlement but the Lakota had objections to somehow the terms and refused to take the settlement. And that’s where it stands today.


49 posted on 07/05/2023 4:37:13 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: 21twelve

First this company is still doing large business in Russia, we don’t have to go back hundreds of years to find “stolen” land.

There is not a country on the face of this earth that can claim possession of a land from the beginning of time and all countries present borders are relatively new compared to time man has been on this earth. The funny part is there is one country that IMO has historical claims for a land far longer than any I can think of and that is routinely challenged and that is Israel

Second,your point is spot on, let’s start with the “native Americans”, if the account of the land bridge is correct, does it really make sense that the “americas” were uninhabited when they came over? Most likely not so that is the first invasion of the “americas”

I call it recentism, a mental condition where one only goes far enough back in history to back their claim or grievance

For the sake of argument let’s say the americas were uninhabited at the time, but since then and before the “white man” arrived this land was under constant state of war. These people were not living in peace on lands set and divided all that time ago. The warred, they invaded, they enslaved,. Control of lands switched hands constantly and not through diplomacy but war. My. Rushmore and the black hills can trace at least 7 different tribes claiming control and ownership of those lands all through war. So who is the “rightful” claimants of that land.
Mexico often makes claims for parts of the US, fair enough because until those lands were taken from Mexico the land had been under Mexican control since the beginning of time, right? Of course not, but under recentism that doesn’t matter. The fact is the claimed lands became part of Mexico after independence from Spain. Who took the land from others, and those “others” had undoubtedly taken that land form others who had taken it from others….

The argument is ridiculous, but these are the times we live in. Everyone claims victimhood

Let’s talk historynofnslavery slavery and reparations, nah pointless


52 posted on 07/05/2023 4:52:34 AM PDT by blitz128
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