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GCAP fighter design to fly within 5 years, as BAE eyes potential export market
Breaking Defense ^ | July 06, 2023 at 6:45 AM | Andrew White

Posted on 07/07/2023 4:41:06 AM PDT by Fish Speaker

WARTON, United Kingdom — BAE Systems executives this week expressed confidence that the Global Combat Air Platform (GCAP), currently in development with Italy and Japan, will achieve its projected in-service date of 2035, with a “manned, supersonic and low observable jet” demonstrator taking flight within the next five years.

And more than that, the company leaders believe they can find an export market of “several hundred” jets globally.

Meeting with the media at BAE Systems’ assembly plant in Warton, Lancashire, Herman Claesen, BAE Systems’ Future Combat Air System Managing Director, called the international export of GCAP a “key feature” in the wider FCAS effort. (GCAP is nestled under the UK’s FCAS program.)

“This is a requirement endorsed by the [UK] Prime Minister [in a joint leader statement] in December 2022 for multiple reasons. If you look at Typhoon, you forge and encourage and strengthen international relationships through these programs,” he stated. “If we deliver solutions in 2035, we’ll be the first mover and one of the first western nations outside the US to deliver sixth-generation [aircraft].

(Excerpt) Read more at breakingdefense.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Technical
KEYWORDS: air; combat; global; platform
This is Europe's response to the F-35.
1 posted on 07/07/2023 4:41:06 AM PDT by Fish Speaker
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To: Fish Speaker

If I know the Brits, it will be very cool looking, but the Lucas electrical system will keep in on the ground forever.


2 posted on 07/07/2023 4:59:09 AM PDT by Fireone (Trump won.)
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To: Fish Speaker
How can ANY negative/warlike event be "imminent" if the manufacturers have a five year out plan ?

ALL news, (it now seems to me) is purity bullshit.

3 posted on 07/07/2023 5:04:28 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true . . . I have no proof, but they're true.)
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To: Fish Speaker

The next step will be lasers from satellites. And some of these have already been spotted connected to NASA (green). There’s always a one up until it breaks even and nothing is left. It’s just people.

wy69


4 posted on 07/07/2023 5:14:40 AM PDT by whitney69
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To: Fish Speaker
BAE Systems executives this week expressed confidence that the Global Combat Air Platform (GCAP), currently in development with Italy and Japan, will achieve its projected in-service date of 2035...

2035? Is that a typo? Anything projected twelve years out will undoubtedly be obsolete by the time time it's fielded.

5 posted on 07/07/2023 5:15:59 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man.)
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To: Fish Speaker
Global Combat Air Platform (GCAP)/Tempest


6 posted on 07/07/2023 5:16:57 AM PDT by Bounced2X (Boomer - I survived childhood with no bike helmet.)
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To: Fireone

....had a British MGB sports car for several years...yeah,
“Lucas, the Prince of Darkness”....had electrical, wiring, connector corrosion issues with it almost from day one....


7 posted on 07/07/2023 5:27:16 AM PDT by TokarevM57
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To: Bounced2X

That looks like an F22 with the inlets of an F35, or like CGI from a TV show from the 90s.


8 posted on 07/07/2023 5:49:43 AM PDT by Antihero101607
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To: Fish Speaker

I recently read somewhere (I can’t find the article now) that the USN has decided to quit building the F/A-18 and invest in this new GCAP platform. The F-35C will carry the Navy thru for the next decade or so, at least.

For those that may not know, BAE was also deeply involved in the development of the F-35 series, so I would expect that our aerospace industries will be involve in this one, too.


9 posted on 07/07/2023 5:50:01 AM PDT by Afterguard
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To: Bounced2X

I have always considered cost and number of engines onboard to be significant differences in the F-22 and F-35. Not sure those two things can be measured other than in sheer numbers of aircraft which to me matters more than fewer numbers but very high cost.


10 posted on 07/07/2023 6:04:56 AM PDT by wita (Under oath since 1966 in defense of Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness)
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To: Antihero101607
That looks like an F22 with the inlets of an F35, or like CGI from a TV show from the 90s.

Yep. No expert by any means but; Apparently the shape of these things is pretty much based on prevailing stealth tech science. You can't fiddle with it much no matter who builds it. I guess the electronics & engine packages are what makes the real difference country to country.

11 posted on 07/07/2023 6:08:37 AM PDT by Bounced2X (Boomer - I survived childhood with no bike helmet.)
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To: Taxman

ping


12 posted on 07/07/2023 6:14:52 AM PDT by Taxman (SAVE AMERICA! VOTE REPUBLICAN IN 2023 AND 2024!)
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To: Bounced2X
I guess the electronics & engine packages are what makes the real difference country to country.

My guess is that engines will be standardized across all models (if this ever flys).

Avionics (electronics) will be determined by what technology is exportable and how much the customer can afford.

IMHO, the biggie is cost.

My guess is they are trying to develop a "low cost," exportable fighter that is comparable to the F-35.

My prediction is: it will never fly.

It is a "jobs program" to keep the "Aerospace Engineer" pipeline going in Europe and Japan.

13 posted on 07/07/2023 6:42:27 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: Fireone

Lucas, the Prince of Darkness. Their switches have 3 positions: on, off and intermittent.


14 posted on 07/07/2023 6:46:50 AM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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“Lucas, the Prince of Darkness. Their switches have 3 positions: on, off and intermittent.”

Perfect description! Waaaay back in my youth I had a 1959 MGA Fixed-head (coupe). It would always start but I always tried to be home before dark because it was a 50/50 crapshoot that I could get the headlights to come on.... I LOVED that car!


15 posted on 07/07/2023 7:09:38 AM PDT by Afterguard
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To: FtrPilot
It is a "jobs program" to keep the "Aerospace Engineer" pipeline going in Europe and Japan.

Thanks. All that sounds like the reasonable take on it.

16 posted on 07/07/2023 7:30:30 AM PDT by Bounced2X (Boomer - I survived childhood with no bike helmet.)
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To: Afterguard

Back in college, I had a bugeye Sprite. Got about 2 or 3 quarts of oil per mile if memory serves. Every trip was a roll of the dice.


17 posted on 07/07/2023 8:31:52 AM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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To: Antihero101607

the 105...


18 posted on 07/07/2023 11:33:47 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Antihero101607
"or like CGI from a TV show from the 90s"

Or maybe a video game frome the 80's

19 posted on 07/07/2023 12:35:21 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: Antihero101607
"or like CGI from a TV show from the 90s"

Or maybe a video game frome the 80's

20 posted on 07/07/2023 12:59:26 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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