Posted on 07/13/2023 12:49:27 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier
On July 4, Ben & Jerry’s public relations division made headlines by tweeting, “It’s high time we recognize that the US exists on stolen Indigenous land and commit to returning it.”
The tweet was widely criticized. But behind the grandstanding and virtue-signaling, there is a deadly serious movement within American and Canadian liberal circles that holds both of these countries to be illegitimate.
...[T]he cause is so popular on social media platforms such as Twitter and why people need to understand and arm themselves with counterarguments.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
So file a lawsiouxt
This whole idea native Americans were peaceful tree huggers who only cared about nature before Europeans arrived is garbage. They had horrible wars between tribes including some of extermination.
I detest the use of the word “liberal”. Liberal implies great tolerance, etc. which is the exact opposite of what they really are, that are the TRUE fascists.
They stole it from the Cheyenne, who stole it from the Crow, who stole it from the Kiowa etc.....So,who really owns the land ??? .The US government stole it from the Sioux.....Everyone conquered the tribe who owned it, and progressives love to say it was stolen...OKAY...Soo,tell the truth and admit the natives stole it from each other...
That's also how the naming started....to preserve their history.
” They had horrible wars between tribes including some of extermination.”
Yes.
The only reason the Apache were in the badlands of Arizona, New Mexico and Northern Mexico, was because the Comanche chased them out of Texas and the better parts of New Mexico.
What is even “Indian land”? They were largely nomadic people , so a small group walking past a lake suddenly makes it their land ?
lol
The left constantly uses this tired lie and it only reveals their lack of education. Native American tribes did not “own” land, nor did that enter in to their vocabulary. They considered themselves tenants of land, equal to nature. They occupied regions and both invaded such regions or territories or defended against other tribes sharing such occupation. The white man goveenment was sympathetic and set up reservations in the early 18th century. Natives are still free to roam national parks and monuments and live as they did back then. Sadly, there are few purebloods remaining.
The Hill: “Oh oh. It’s Ben and Jerry’s. One of ours. Quick! Protect Ben and Jerry’s”.
Chief Sitting Bull: These are the lands where my people lived before you whites first came.
Colonel Miles: I don't understand. We whites were not your first enemies. Why don't you demand back the land in Minnesota, the Chippewa forced you from years before?
Chief Sitting Bull: The Black Hills are a sacred land given to my people by Wakan Tanka.
Colonel Miles: How very convenient to cloak your claims in spiritualism. No matter what your legends say, you didn't sprout from the plains like the spring grasses. And you didn't coalesce out of the ether. You came out of the Minnesota woodlands armed to the teeth and set upon your fellow man.
Colonel Miles: You massacred the Kiowa, the Omaha, the Ponca, the Oto and the Pawnee without mercy. And yet you claim the Black Hills, as a private preserve bequeathed to you by the Great Spirit.
Colonel Miles: The proposition that you were a peaceable people before the appearance of the white man is the most fanciful legend of all. You killed each other for hundreds of moons before whites stepped foot on this continent.
Colonel Miles: You conquered those tribes, lusting for their game and their lands just as we have now conquered you for no less noble a cause.
from the movie Bury My Heart At Wounded Knee (2007)
They were a stone age culture before Europeans arrived.
yep.. the chippawa kicked the sioux out of minnesota.
They signed treaties surrendering the land to us in exchange for ending the wars anyway. So there’s no legal argument that the land belongs to them, anymore than Russia has a legal argument that the land it ceded to Ukraine back in the 90s suddenly magically belongs to Russia again.
I thought Native Americans were all about NOT owning land. But, every bit of the American West that they own now is some sort of “Sacred Ground” bs.
The Hill
Vikings were here first
So much irrelevant BS. Nobody is going to give the Black Hills back to the Lakota. Forget that. But somewhere in the mashed up history of the region, It got lost that the duly elected United States Government granted to the Lakota tribe by way of treaty, sovereignty and ownership of the Black Hills area, defined in the treat, in perpetuity. Doesn’t matter where the Lakota came from, they were recognized at the time by the US Gov to be the sole and sovereign owners of the land. So what happened. It seems gold was discovered, right there in the Black Hills. Rather than work with the owners of the land to develop and share the wealth of precious metals, a corrupt Congress was induced to pass a bill which basically made it legal for them to take the land away, in flagrant violation of the treaty of Ft Laramie, and sell it off to private buyers.
The SCOTUS later agreed that this was a total injustice and awarded monetary damages. Even then they did not consider taking the land and giving it to the tribe.
So you can yammer all you want about the primitive savages and their warring tribes, stealing each others’ land. But the US was no better.
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