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Why I Use the Phrase ‘Judeo-Christian’-It's not why some may think.
Frontpagemagazine ^ | July 14, 2023 | Danusha V. Goska

Posted on 07/14/2023 7:34:20 AM PDT by SJackson

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1 posted on 07/14/2023 7:34:21 AM PDT by SJackson
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To: SJackson

Jesus was an orthodox Jew. Enough said.


2 posted on 07/14/2023 7:40:27 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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Long article

3 posted on 07/14/2023 7:42:13 AM PDT by SJackson (he who controls the schools, controls the world, 1870s France)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

Just a Jew, or I presume an observant Jew. The “types” of Jews we refer to today is a relatively recent distinction historically, a couple centuries.


4 posted on 07/14/2023 7:45:08 AM PDT by SJackson (he who controls the schools, controls the world, 1870s France)
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To: SJackson

How about perfect Jew? He never broke any commandments and had perfect knowledge of the Jewish texts.


5 posted on 07/14/2023 7:47:00 AM PDT by Telepathic Intruder
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To: SJackson

“Anything distinctive about the West is probably bad, and not a real “value” that anyone should cherish.”

Marxism is a value system founded in the West. People trying to escape “Western values” should shun it. On the other hand, Judaism and Christianity originated in Asia. Arguably, also beer, and civilization, but I digress.


6 posted on 07/14/2023 7:50:12 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

“Let’s not slide right past Warren’s use of the words “purported Western values.” “Purported” means that Warren doubts that there is any such thing as the West”

Well she’s right, at least regarding today. But the West sure as heck had values in the past, which allowed us to build the society that we now see collapsing.


7 posted on 07/14/2023 7:57:31 AM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: SJackson

“The individualism so typical of the West is not a feature of Hinduism or Buddhism. In those beliefs, individualism is an illusion and the goal is to overcome that illusion and to lose the self as a droplet loses its individuality when it enters the ocean”

The writer of this article is so full of crap and this here alone proves it


8 posted on 07/14/2023 7:57:51 AM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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To: SJackson

The Fulfilled Jew


9 posted on 07/14/2023 8:01:18 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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To: Telepathic Intruder
So was the apostle Paul, but when the Church of Christ was formed in Acts 2, Judaism was an obsolete, and rebellion, religion.

Read more and post less. Read the entire book of Galatians. Paul condemns them for returning to, or even reinstituting elements of, the Old Law.

Also, Acts 15:5ff. No man is saved unless he repents of false religion and becomes a strict (New Testament) Christian. That includes Jews.

10 posted on 07/14/2023 8:01:47 AM PDT by LouAvul (Daniel 4:17: "..the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever He will.." )
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To: Telepathic Intruder

They Ain’t Makin’ Jews Like Jesus Anymore...


11 posted on 07/14/2023 8:02:45 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: SJackson

What a bunch of anti-Judeo-Christian garbage.

Erm...10 Commandments ring a bell? Those ARE WESTERN values that Islam contradicts and Mohammed broke just about every one of them.

This is just hatred for western (i.e. ‘white Christian’) culture.

Is there a distinct difference? Yes. Just ask Muslims. Ask the French. They are oil and water. The Crusades happened for a reason and only fools think it ended. Nothing has changed. The only lull was because the Crusades were successful. Now we have morons allowing them to take over from the inside without any fight whatsoever...believing they’re ‘enlightened’ in doing so, purely because of their own hatred for Christianity.


12 posted on 07/14/2023 8:06:58 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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Excellent read. If you do not read the whole thing, the following passage is interesting for why Islam does not get cobbled together with Judeo-Christian.
Again, the New Testament was written by Jews (with the possible exception of Luke). It was written in the land of Israel. It makes constant reference to the Old Testament; in fact it is incomprehensible without the Old Testament as key. Its main character, Jesus, was an observant Jew, descended from King David.

Nothing like the above can be said about Islam or the Qur’an. The Qur’an we know is in Arabic; there is debate about the language of the original material from which the Qur’an was compiled. The Qur’an was initially embraced by Arabs who had little cultural or genetic relationship to Jews of the land of Israel. The Qur’an is unstinting in its condemnation of Jews and Christians. The Qur’an takes bits and pieces of pre-existing Jewish, Christian, and Pagan material, garbles that material, and uses it to support a new religion, Islam. This new religion is very different from Judaism or Christianity. One must read the entire Qur’an to understand how completely it diverges from the Old and New Testaments. It is not, by any stretch, in the same category. Muslims recognize this. Modern Muslims condemn the entire Bible. Mere possession of a Bible is against the law, or at least highly dangerous in several Muslim countries.

Also of course, Islam was not part of the foundation of Western Civilization. Islam is not ancient but is medieval.
13 posted on 07/14/2023 8:11:35 AM PDT by UnwashedPeasant (The pandemic we suffer from is not COVID. It is Marxist Democrat Leftism.)
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Catholic priests can walk down the streets in Jordan
Catholic priests can walk down the streets in Iran
Catholic priests can walk down the streets in Lebanon
Catholic priests can walk down the streets in Egypt
Catholic priests can walk down the streets in Turkey

And in Israel? Well, see for yourself

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4163810/posts


14 posted on 07/14/2023 8:27:52 AM PDT by Rattlesnake_Snook
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Founded in the West? Proof please.
I’m pretty sure Marxism’s core fundamental beliefs are based in atheism, which is based in gnosticism.


15 posted on 07/14/2023 8:48:48 AM PDT by GMThrust
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The development of Christian theology in the early centuries and later during the Renaissance owes more to Greek Philosophy than to Judaism.

The original Christianity was considerably modified before it became more successful than other contenders and became the state religion of the Roman Empire under Constantine. Subsequently, the theology was developed even more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_and_Ancient_Greek_philosophy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoplatonism_and_Christianity

The Eastern and Coptic churches may be more Judeo Christian.


16 posted on 07/14/2023 8:56:32 AM PDT by FarCenter
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That was a good read,

Thank you.


17 posted on 07/14/2023 8:58:48 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: UnwashedPeasant

>>Also of course, Islam was not part of the foundation of Western Civilization

Western Civilization owes a lot to Islamic philosophers who kept learning alive during latter Dark Ages and Medieval period. Contacts between the Christian and Islamic world during the Crusades and in Spain were crucial.


18 posted on 07/14/2023 9:02:17 AM PDT by FarCenter
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To: GMThrust

Well, I concluded that Marxism was founded by Karl Marx, who was born in Germany and spent his life in Europe, and twisted Hegel and Kant to fit his philosophy. Flavors of atheism sprouted in different places spontaneously; many of them date back to pre-history. You could argue that it originated in Africa, or that the Neanderthals practiced it.


19 posted on 07/14/2023 9:02:31 AM PDT by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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To: SJackson

bkmk


20 posted on 07/14/2023 9:09:34 AM PDT by sauropod (Sun Tzu: “The supreme art of war is to subdue the enemy without fighting”)
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