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Kiev using banned mines, NATO munitions to bomb civilians in Donets
Monthly Review ^ | 7/27/23 | Steve Sweeney

Posted on 07/29/2023 5:23:17 AM PDT by JonPreston

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To: ansel12

Bathe in my illumination, warrior.


21 posted on 07/29/2023 7:36:53 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: ansel12
--- "Degrowth communism: Marx's last breakthrough"

A fascinating phrase. How about de-grow governments? Include in de-growing ours all the EPA, FDA, CDC, NEA, and bunches of the interlocking welfare programs. De-growth of political power of the Democrats and the RINOs. De-growrh of public employee unions and public employee pensions. De-grow over-regulation. Certainly, de-grow the Biden administration, which seems ever more like the third term of Obama.

The funny thing about your "kill the messenger" stratagem is that it reminds of the following:

The interference of the state power in social relations becomes superfluous in one sphere after another, and then ceases of itself. The government of persons is replaced by the administration of things and the direction of the processes of production. The state is not "abolished", it withers away. (German: Der Staat wird nicht „abgeschafft“, er stirbt ab., lit. 'The state is not "abolished", it atrophies.')

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withering_away_of_the_state

And then there is this:
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."
Goodness, such notions were revolutionary. And still are.
22 posted on 07/29/2023 7:38:59 AM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: JonPreston

Whatever it takes to oust Ruzzia from Ukraine is fine by me. Cluster bombs, flamethrowers, rap music, whatever.


23 posted on 07/29/2023 7:42:55 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: JonPreston

—”I take it you hold the ICC with respect. Most Americans don’t.”

So Russia fails to report this egregious violation?
What are they drunk? Again?
Why not?

Most Americans do not respect the cops, but when a gangbanger is banging on your front door, they call the cops.

The answer is that the allegations are BS and most know it.


24 posted on 07/29/2023 7:42:59 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

They’re not ‘banned mine’ they’re land mines.

(-;


25 posted on 07/29/2023 7:44:07 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: JonPreston; DUMBGRUNT

“I take it you hold the ICC with respect. Most Americans don’t.”

I have nothing but respect for the Interstate Commerce Commission.


26 posted on 07/29/2023 7:47:10 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: JonPreston

The more I look through your source the more I understand your worldview and where you get it from.


27 posted on 07/29/2023 7:47:46 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Most Americans do not respect the cops, but when a gangbanger is banging on your front door, they call the cops.

So you're equating the ICC with an American police department that protects US?

28 posted on 07/29/2023 7:48:27 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: MeganC
Whatever it takes to oust Ruzzia from Ukraine is fine by me. Cluster bombs, flamethrowers, rap music, whatever.

You probably don't want these guys leading the charge.


29 posted on 07/29/2023 7:51:43 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: MeganC

—”They’re not ‘banned mine’ they’re land mines.”

YES!
Most observers have figured this out.

But the local gaggle of “Conservatives for Putin” continuously claim land mine war crime!

Most observers say, “Not the sharpest knife in the kitchen. “


30 posted on 07/29/2023 7:54:26 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: JonPreston

Try a smile, not a metaphor.


31 posted on 07/29/2023 8:01:24 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT
I'll ask you again;

So you're equating the ICC with an American police department that protects US?

32 posted on 07/29/2023 8:04:18 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston

“You probably don’t want these guys leading the charge.”

Sure I do! I want them right out front charging Ruzzian positions and armed with their pronouns!

Lol!


33 posted on 07/29/2023 8:07:35 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: JonPreston

I SAY AGAIN!

Try a smile, not a metaphor.

Over.


34 posted on 07/29/2023 8:32:04 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: Brian Griffin
Treaties are agreements between countries. They work only when both sides agree.

Russia has not joined the treaty

You can't have only one side bound by a treaty the other side hasn't joined.

35 posted on 07/29/2023 9:15:15 AM PDT by occamrzr06
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To: JonPreston
You probably don't want these guys leading the charge.

Are we talking about a rhetorical charge, or an actual charge across an anti-personnel mine minefield?

36 posted on 07/29/2023 9:24:19 AM PDT by Pilsner
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To: DUMBGRUNT

It isn’t often someone’s screen name fits the poster perfectly. Congratulations!


37 posted on 07/29/2023 10:06:31 AM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: JonPreston

—”It isn’t often someone’s screen name fits the poster perfectly.”

Oh, so clever.
And yet, your overseers pay you nothing for all that time and effort.

Precisely equal to your worth.


38 posted on 07/29/2023 11:00:53 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: MeganC

Whatever it takes to oust Ruzzia from Ukraine is fine by me. Cluster bombs, flamethrowers, rap music, whatever.

Which means NATO (us) as Ukraine doesn’t have the strength to drive them out.


39 posted on 07/29/2023 12:23:49 PM PDT by rxh4n1
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To: JonPreston

War is hell, that’s why we need to pray everyday for this one to end.


40 posted on 07/29/2023 1:25:33 PM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! AMERICA FIRST! DEATH TO MARXISM AN GLOBALISM! Trump 2024, NO more Mr Nice)
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