Posted on 07/29/2023 5:23:17 AM PDT by JonPreston
Donetsk city center came under “a massive chaotic attack” on Tuesday with plumes of smoke seen for miles as Ukrainian shelling hit densely populated areas during peak hours.
Acting head of the Donetsk People’s Republic Denis Pushilin said that 169 munitions had been launched including rocket and canon artillery fire with NATO-supplied munitions.
The city was pounded for most of the day, with explosions heard from 11 am. Four people were wounded over the course of the day, although the state of their injuries is unknown at this stage.
Once again it was civilian areas that bore the brunt of the Ukrainian barrage with at least 17 residential buildings damaged in the Voroshilovsky, Kievsky, Petrovsky, and Kuibyshevsky districts.
“What we experienced today was real horror,” pensioner Svetlana Ivanova said after she came under fire in the Kievsky district.
(Excerpt) Read more at mronline.org ...
—”Kiev using banned mines,”
Very odd?
Russia has yet to report them to the ICC.
Who says they are banned? Some Commie who hates their effectiveness.
We use them all the time.
DPICM - Dual Purpose Conventional Munitions.
ATACMS - Army Tactical Missile System
FASCAM - Family of Scatterable Mines
—”Who says they are banned? Some Commie who hates their effectiveness.”
The local gaggle of “Conservatives for Putin” continuously claim war crime, war crime...
For the last five hundred days.
“The 1997 Mine Ban Treaty comprehensively bans antipersonnel mines and requires destruction of stocks, clearance of mined areas, and assistance to victims. Ukraine signed the Mine Ban Treaty on February 24, 1999, and ratified it on December 27, 2005. Russia has not joined the treaty, but it is still in violation of international law when using antipersonnel mines given their inherently indiscriminate nature. The Mine Ban Treaty entered into force on March 1, 1999, and its 164 states include all NATO member states, except the US, and all European Union member states.”
“(Kyiv, January 31, 2023) – Ukraine should investigate its military’s apparent use of thousands of rocket-fired antipersonnel landmines in and around the eastern city of Izium when Russian forces occupied the area, Human Rights Watch said today.”
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/01/31/ukraine-banned-landmines-harm-civilians
“The Russian military seized Izium and the surrounding areas by April 1 and exercised full control there until early September when Ukrainian forces began a counteroffensive. During their occupation, Russian forces arbitrarily detained, interrogated and tortured residents, and in some cases forcibly disappeared and killed civilians.”
So they used mines and arty on civilians. So what. Russia sends missiles into Ukie cities every day. It’s WAR. As much as it tore at them the Krauts and Japs didn’t issue protests after Hamburg and Tokyo. If Putin wants to win, carpet bomb Kyiv and Odessa, fully mobilize the country, send a million men into Ukraine. The Reds and their supporters should stop bellyaching over some landmines and cluster shells. As for me, this looks like a small replay of Barbarossa only with no other nation engaged. Pass the popcorn.
Exactly. Very sad as they had all those years of being shelled before this war began.
I mention this, because as one watches the media worldwide over the Ukraine-Russia war, people on the political Right and some on the political Left are beginning to speak similar sorts of narratives.
This is interesting as the "opponent" spoken about is not necessarily the Russian or Ukrainian peoples, but about governments acting in corrupt fashion.
In that vein, I commented with a quote from another thread and reproduce here:
"...a 2001 moratorium on the sale of land to foreigners had always represented an obstacle to unrestrained privatisation. As post-Maidan governments turned again to the IMF for financing, aid was conditioned on a series of land reforms that would finally allow foreign corporations to acquire vast tracts of the country's farmland. In 2020, Zelenskyy gave in to the IMF's demands and finally repealed the moratorium. 'Agribusiness interests and oligarchs will be the primary beneficiaries of such reform,' said Olena Borodina of the Ukrainian Rural Development Network. 'This will only further marginalise smallholder farmers and risks severing them from their most valuable resource.' But the World Bank could barely contain its excitement, gushing: 'This is, without exaggeration, a historic event.' Even though the new law isn't set to come into force until next year, US and Western European agrobusinesses have already bought up millions of hectares of Ukraine's farmland — with 10 private companies reportedly controlling most of it."If accurate as Modern Diplomacy relates it, neither the citizens of Ukraine, Russia or even the NATO nations including us, are actually winning anything from the conflict. But some intend to win, whatever the ultimate outcome.In "The whole Ukraine goes for sale -massive profit opportunities being created by the war' -- July 17, 2023
Source: https://moderndiplomacy.eu/2023/07/17/the-whole-ukraine-goes-for-sale-massive-profit-opportunities-being-created-by-the-war/
Thus your graphic speaks more perhaps than you intended.
Our cluster bombs? But...but...they PROMISED they wouldn’t!
The Democrats, Globalists, and Neocons (Ukraine War supporters) literally, cannot criticize ANYTHING that Ukraine does, for fear of losing their gravy train.
...and Ukraine takes FULL ADVANTAGE of that degree of freedom to fight this war as they wish, rather than comply with International Law.
Most everything can be fixed with money. So Lindsay Graham will send them 2 billion more dollars, and THAT will be THAT, and we can go tell Americans, WE ARE DEFENDING DEMOCRACY.
I take it you hold the ICC with respect. Most Americans don't.
That the Muskovite propaganda teams expend so much energy on us here on FR is flattering, I guess. But I could do without it, especially on the weekend.
True populism tends to join people of good will and peace at some point on the arc of a circle. As an example, RFK JRs schooling of Hannity on Ukraine was delightful to me. Trump's populism/nationalism has no home in traditional conservative thought and that's why I find him a delight. Out political standards are shattered and broken. Many see it, but many more are still trapped in the Reagan Republican party. Today, our city on a hill is a mess, and the neighborhood has become a slum. Don't blame me, I've been warning people since Ross Perot :)
It's the weekend, Chad. What are you doing commenting on the weekend? Go write your next fiction.
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