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U.S. Ban On Incandescent Light Bulbs Starts Next Week: Here’s What To Know (TOMORROW)
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Posted on 07/31/2023 8:49:05 AM PDT by algore

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To: Terry L Smith

“all these newfangled non-Edison bulbs throw off the human eye color charts. ask any photographer to e plain what i mean.”

LOL! With incandescent we had to switch to indoor film.


61 posted on 07/31/2023 9:39:17 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

I’d be happy to send you a box of “failed way early” LED bulbs if you’ll cover the shipping.

My latest was one of those folding section “garage” lights. It was great through last winter. But in late March IIRC, the days were a bit warmer: The inadequate heat sinking and ambient temperatures more like 80 deg. F near the ceiling made the light run so hot that plastic parts of the “leaves” fried, and most sections of the LED’s burned out too.*

*I’d have to go pull it out - this may be another one where solder melted and ran off the LED elements solder joints.

Hey, don’t believe me - go on YouTube and find dozens of vids of people repairing / attempting to repair LED bulbs that farted out in this manner.

Now, “big brand name” (say, GE) LED bulbs usually hold up well - I have some that are at least 10 years old now and got lots of use. They’ve lost about half their brightness, but, that’s actually not bad - most bulb types’ lumen output diminishes substantially with long use. Another advantage is that LEDs (at least good quality LED bulbs) don’t care about being turned on and off thousands or even tens of thousands of times. Great for bathroom lights!

Also, I added additional heat sinking to another one of those folding lights. According to my temperature “gun” that got the operating temperature in ~80 deg. surroundings down to around 200 deg. F, and so far the light is holding up. :-) The heat sinks, screws, and heat conductive paste probably cost me as much as the light did, tho’. :-(


62 posted on 07/31/2023 9:42:52 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Tommy Revolts

“Incandescent bulbs have the fewest health risks and are the safest type of lightbulb.”

The Most Overlooked Fire Hazard In Your Home

https://www.familyhandyman.com/article/the-most-overlooked-fire-hazard-at-home/


“They are also way less expensive. This more than double’s the cost of a lightbulb.”

They last way longer than 2x incandescent. That alone makes them cheaper. Then there is the electricity savings!


63 posted on 07/31/2023 9:44:21 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

High-quality LED lighting lamps can last a very, very long time. Cheap dollar store or unbranded versions can go dark in less time than an incandescent. I’ve have both types.


64 posted on 07/31/2023 9:45:10 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: algore

last up to 25 times longer than incandescent bulbs, according to the department.

Bravo Sierra. Ours burn out at about the same rate as the incandescents.

BTW, reminds me of the Last Man Standing episode where Mike and Chuck went to the hardware store looking for contraband incandescents - code word “strawberries”. Classic.


65 posted on 07/31/2023 9:45:10 AM PDT by jagusafr ( )
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To: Terry L Smith

“i have bought enough Edison light bulbs to last a few years at least. Im 71 so i dont need all those newfangled bulbs, that rape your wallet, too.”

How do they rape your wallet when they save you money!

Not to mention the labor savings.


66 posted on 07/31/2023 9:47:20 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: 1Old Pro

Yes, that is a good point. I’m hopefully old enough that I’ll never have to buy a car with such ridiculously expensive headlights. (And granted that similar cost inflation applies now to many other car parts.)


67 posted on 07/31/2023 9:47:52 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: TexasGator

“LEDs are now available with their own dusk to dawn light sensors.”

Don’t use ‘em. My front porch lite has been on 24/7/365 for over a decade. Turning any lite bulb off and on repeatedly shortens its life.


68 posted on 07/31/2023 9:48:17 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: lee martell

The idiot brigade thinks the gop is going to sweep into congress and save the day……


69 posted on 07/31/2023 9:49:42 AM PDT by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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To: 9422WMR

Heat lamps are exempted. They aren’t primarily “(visible) light producers”. If you’re nervous about it anyway, Amazon has lots of them today.


70 posted on 07/31/2023 9:50:29 AM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: algore

Next lighting that will be enviro approved. Buy yours before the rush!
71 posted on 07/31/2023 9:52:53 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: DPMD

Also, that PSTUPID REP. from Michigan who’s niece is a super model, pushed it years ago....I thought it was a DEAD ISSUE!


72 posted on 07/31/2023 9:53:30 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: jagusafr

“Bravo Sierra. Ours burn out at about the same rate as the incandescents.”

Don’t buy junk. We have had ZERO failures of FEIT bulbs over several years.

Nice when you are 76 with 13 ft ceilings!


73 posted on 07/31/2023 9:58:05 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

I’ve had good luck with FEIT except one batch of 100w equivalent FEITs that were awful (failed early, every one.) Might have been a QC slip-up, as I never got around to checking how hot they were running. (Overheating would likely be a design screw-up.) All were in open fixtures, normal ambient (under 90 deg. F) temperatures.


74 posted on 07/31/2023 10:00:18 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: NorthMountain

Exactly and this comes from the Klaus Schwab commies. WEF’ers need to be hung.


75 posted on 07/31/2023 10:03:37 AM PDT by dragonblustar (As in the days of Noah….)
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To: Wuli

“Turning any lite bulb off and on repeatedly shortens its life.”

We have a utility room from the garage to the kitchen/hall/dining room. We replaced the long fluorescent bulbs with LEDs and replaced one of the 2-way switches with a motion sensor switch.

Any movement in the hall or kitchen also sets it off. Going on 3 years of activating 15-20 times a day and still going strong.

Hung a long-array LED garage light with motion sensor. Turns on/of many times a day. Still strong after years.


76 posted on 07/31/2023 10:04:59 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: Wuli

” Turning any lite bulb off and on repeatedly shortens its life.”

We have two strings of low-wattage landscape LED flood lights that turn on/off each day. No failures.


77 posted on 07/31/2023 10:08:48 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: steve86

Aside from overheating, I suspect cheapies also don’t have much in the way of electrical spike suppression in them. I had even worse problems with some electronic ballast T40 fluorescents* — electrical spikes would zap ‘em. I have a whole stack of the fixtures. Some I convert them into low intensity heaters, but now I’m also thinking of converting some to the LED tubes designed to work in fluorescent fixtures with the ballasts removed. The nice thing there is that one can get 48” LED tubes that actually consume 40 watts or so and are very bright. Great for a shop light mounted on a high ceiling.

(Maybe the failure rate wasn’t worse, but getting to them was — all mounted high or very high.)


78 posted on 07/31/2023 10:09:54 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: Paul R.

“I’d be happy to send you a box of “failed way early” LED bulbs if you’ll cover the shipping.”

Do you take PayPal? Post your bank routing and account numbers, please.


79 posted on 07/31/2023 10:10:57 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator
Heck, one can strobe LED's rapidly (as in many LED flashlights) with no problems. But, that said, mechanically turning lights on and off does create electrical spikes that if not suppressed could degrade a LED not well protected. LED's are just a type of P/N junction, really.
80 posted on 07/31/2023 10:20:36 AM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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