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A ROUND TABLE UKRAINIAN WAR UPDATE WITH JUDGE NAPOLITANO AND RAY MCGOVERN AND A GONZALO LIRA UPDATE — UPDATE
Sonar21 ^ | 1 Aug 24 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 08/05/2023 8:23:42 AM PDT by delta7

It is unusual to appear on Judge Napolitano’s channel two days in a row but recent developments made it necessary. The Judge was unfamiliar with Gonzalo Lira and asked me to explain who he is and what is his current status. I told the Judge that Gonzalo hosted a very popular round table/podcast the specialized in interviewing guest experts and offering up his own analysis. I told the Judge that he is just like Gonzalo, only better looking. That got a big laugh from the Judge.

There has been a lot of uninformed commentary about Gonzalo, with some declaring him as some sort of intelligence asset. That is utter nonsense. No CIA case officer in their right mind would sign up someone like Gonzalo for several reasons. First, he is an American citizen. CIA is prohibited from recruiting U.S. citizens as intelligence assets. Second, Gonzalo’s commentary, analysis and hosted round tables did not in any way advance a U.S. Government position. Just the opposite — he was (and is) a strong critic.

One of my retired CIA buddies — an experienced, accomplished CIA Case Officer — provided me his evaluation of the videos:…

…. The drama surrounding Gonzalo’s fate takes place against the growing desperation of Ukraine. Ukraine’s attack on Moscow on two consecutive days with drones had zero military benefit for Kiev. One likely motive for this weak effort is the West’s persistent delusional belief that Putin’s domestic support is wilting and that these types of attacks will galvanize hardliners to oust him. I also believe that Ukraine is hoping these attacks will provoke a Russian response that will compel NATO to intervene militarily on behalf of Ukraine.

This is a fool’s errand and underscores the panic that is taking hold in both Kiev and NATO. We learned from the classified documents leaked from Jack Teixeira’s Discord account that a total of 12 Brigades were trained for this offensive. Normally, a brigade consists of 5,000 soldiers. Just do the math. That means a maximum of 60,000 troops. Based on briefings from Russia’s Defense Ministry, Ukraine has suffered at least 30,000 casualties since the start of the counter-offensive on June 4th. If true this means that 50% of Ukraine’s trained counter offensive soldiers have been eliminated from the battlefield. Minister of Defense Shoigu reported today that Ukraine’s casualties for July alone are 20,000. Those are horrific, catastrophic numbers and Ukraine does not have a ready supply of fresh, trained troops to throw into the battle.

Reuters just came out with a report about the fierce, deadly resistance the Ukrainian troops are encountering from the Russians:

They rode into a kill zone. The timing was off. Many men were lost. In the end, they recaptured the ruined village of Staromaiorske, claiming Ukraine’s biggest advance for weeks.

Troops at the spearhead of Ukraine’s counteroffensive say a battle last week along the front in the southeast proved to be tougher and bloodier than expected, with plans going awry and an enemy that was well-prepared.

“The Russians were waiting for us,” said a 29-year-old soldier using the call-sign Bulat, from a unit sent into battle in armoured vehicles during last week’s assault. . . .

Tales of the battle of Staromaiorske, recounted to Reuters near the frontline in southeastern Ukraine, give an indication of why Kyiv’s boldest counteroffensive of the war, soon entering its third month, has proven a slower and bloodier slog than anticipated. . . .

The Russians have had months to prepare their fortifications and sow minefields. The Ukrainian attackers lack the air superiority that their NATO allies normally expect in their training drills.

The Russian defenders had set up “pre-sighted zones” in anticipation of the attack, said a 24-year-old Ukrainian marine with the call-sign “Dub”.

“They methodically destroyed the roads. They made pits that prevented driving in and out of the village, even in dry weather. Even walking was quite hard. You can’t use flashlights at night, but you still have to advance.” Why are reporters and Western politicians surprised by this outcome? Yes, Russia spent four months (starting last October) constructing defensive lines under the command of General Surovikin. There were several videos on Telegram reporting on this:

…. During the entire time these barriers were being erected Ukraine did not make any attempt to attack the construction crews or try to blow gaps in the Dragon’s teeth anti-tank obstacles. Why? Because Ukraine does not have the air assets or long range missiles capable of making a dent in these integrated redoubts, trenches and mine fields. I believe that Western leaders are guilty of war crimes for pressuring the Ukrainians to carry out what are nothing more than suicide missions. Any senior NATO commander with half-a-brain should know that a frontal assault on these defenses without combat air and mobile artillery is doomed from the start.

UPDATE — Still no news about Gonzalo. Probably not good news. I want to address the scurrilous accusation by some readers that Gonzalo is an intelligence asset of Ukraine. This is utterly ridiculous. There would be only two reasons to recruit Gonzalo as a SBU agent — 1) Spread Ukrainian propaganda, or 2) Use him as bait to attract anti-Ukrainian dissidents.

I challenge anyone to show me one instance where Gonzalo was dishing Ukrainian propaganda. He did the opposite. He exposed frauds, like the Ghost of Kiev and the false flag a Bucha, just to mention two. He hosted a large number of conversations with expert pundits that strongly criticized the Ukrainian activities and alleged achievements. So erase that as a possibility.

How about being bait for dissidents? Gonzalo’s audience was international, not targeted at Ukrainians living in Ukraine.

In short, any SBU intelligence officer who proposed recruiting Gonzalo would qualify as insane. I repeat my request — please provide one example of Gonzalo serving the interests of Ukraine.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: war
Excellent video interview, and supporting evidence ( western MSM at that) illustrating the Ukies failed offensive. The truth is arriving, bit by bit.
1 posted on 08/05/2023 8:23:42 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

So, where did they dig up homosexual pervert Judge Napolitano?


2 posted on 08/05/2023 8:29:45 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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To: Reno89519

From the “80% Wrong” club- He’s been wrong on so many issues, it seems he might be graduation to the 90% club soon


3 posted on 08/05/2023 8:45:52 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Reno89519

They forgot to invite Scott Pedo Ritter and Doug Kosovo Macgregor to their always wrong club.


4 posted on 08/05/2023 8:51:10 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: delta7

Does that include the truth that a first world power is once again imvading and attacking a neighboring country?


5 posted on 08/05/2023 8:52:45 AM PDT by Nifster ( I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: Bob434

Well, that means he is right 20% of the time. When it comes to Ukraine, he is right, not wrong. While I am not a supporter of da Judge, I will note when he is correct on the rare occasions that is the case. 😋


6 posted on 08/05/2023 8:56:00 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: delta7
Gonzalo Lira has a 10 year history of scams, starting with scamming economist Steven Keen out of his website. Then he reinvented himself in the manosphere/MGTOW as a misogynistic dating coach as Coach Red Pill. Now without any qualifications, as a international finance, economics, and political guru, formerly a guest on RT and always anti-West and anti-US.

Both Scott Ritter and Richard Spencer have called out Lira for being a phony. Think about it. Two big rats calling out a even bigger rat? That is a clue about Lira's real character.

Anyone supporting or giving Lira credibility is either duped, or in on his current con and con artists themselves.

7 posted on 08/05/2023 10:07:50 AM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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To: Widget Jr
Anyone supporting or giving Lira credibility is either duped, or in on his current con and con artists themselves.

That seems to be a common characteristic of the main spokesmen from the Putin fan club.

8 posted on 08/05/2023 10:54:19 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: delta7

Anyone know if he made it across the border?


9 posted on 08/05/2023 10:58:46 AM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas)
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To: delta7

As stated in article.....”Ukraine is hoping these attacks will provoke a Russian response that will compel NATO to intervene militarily on behalf of Ukraine.”....

Zelensky’s goal ‘from the very beginning’....still stands.... Full on war between Nato and Russia. He will do whatever is necessary to achieve this...over and over again.


10 posted on 08/05/2023 10:59:34 AM PDT by caww (O death, when you seized my Lord, you lost your grip on me......)
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To: All; delta7

never mind. Pray for him please.

https://en-volve.com/2023/08/02/gonzalo-lira-was-stopped-on-the-ukrainian-side-of-the-border-from-crossing-and-has-since-disappeared-friend-says/


11 posted on 08/05/2023 11:02:00 AM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas)
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To: MarMema

Anyone know if he made it across the border
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Mercouris,Brian, and Johnson believe he was caught by the Ukie SBU at the Hungarian border. That said, the Ukies extorted thousands of dollars from him while initially detained….our corrupted DOS knew he was a US and Chilean citizen but did nothing to help him…. Can’t have a US citizen living in Ukraine reporting the truth and disrupting their fake narrative.


12 posted on 08/05/2023 11:09:37 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Nifster

Always amusing from an American.


13 posted on 08/05/2023 11:09:51 AM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas)
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To: delta7

Dang it. Prayers up for his torture and probable killing soon.


14 posted on 08/05/2023 11:12:03 AM PDT by MarMema (Eat your bananas)
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To: freeandfreezing
Their character turns me off to them more than their siding with Russia and the invasion. They really do care about the war and its consequences.

For the noisemakers like Lira, the war is a means to promote their anti-US, anti-West political camping and for the notoriety. To Johnson and McGovern, it is a way to get some recovery for their falls from grace.

That makes them all really slimy.

15 posted on 08/05/2023 12:08:08 PM PDT by Widget Jr (🇺🇦 Слава Україні! 🇺🇦 Sláva Ukrayíni! 🇺🇦 ☭ No CCCP 2.0 ☭)
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To: Widget Jr
Gonzalo Lira has a 10 year history of scams, starting with scamming economist Steven Keen out of his website. Then he reinvented himself in the manosphere/MGTOW as a misogynistic dating coach as Coach Red Pill. Now without any qualifications, as a international finance, economics, and political guru, formerly a guest on RT and always anti-West and anti-US. Both Scott Ritter and Richard Spencer have called out Lira for being a phony. Think about it. Two big rats calling out a even bigger rat? That is a clue about Lira's real character.

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One Word, Zelenski, ha! such a good example of virtue!

16 posted on 08/05/2023 12:40:46 PM PDT by norsky ( <P> <a href= > </a> <h3> <P><img src=" "width=500"></img> )
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To: delta7

Wow, an article like that will pull the trolls out of the bathroom. Lira has more intellect and ability to discern than any trolls on this thread. Ukraine is getting their ass kicked. NATO is corrupt. And those brainwashed by The Empire Lies (USA) still plod along exposing their ignorance.
We, the Patriots, who love God and the United States of America put up with “freedom of speech” trolls bent on polluting the truth whenever they can. Yet, many are too dense to have decent dialogue.
So, I suggest you give them some slack as you would a baby getting potty trained. Trouble is, they will never be able to control their bowels.
Peace patriots! stay locked and loaded.
GOD BLESS DONALD TRUMP!


17 posted on 08/05/2023 1:10:54 PM PDT by rusureitflies? (Not much to say, yet.)
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To: rusureitflies?

We, the Patriots, who love God and the United States of America put up with “freedom of speech”
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There is more. Christians do not support war, war, war, Trump is the only one saying stop this war- and we know he can do it. Our Founding Fathers also said do NOT get involved with foreign entanglements and wars.

Anyone who disagrees with this are imposters, neither Christians nor Patriots, which puts them into the immoral Democrat camp….. and they don’t even realize it, so funny.


18 posted on 08/05/2023 1:30:16 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Yes, I agree. War is ugly and evil. Jesus said, love your neighbor as you love yourself. . Not much more to add to that. Thanks for the reply.
GOD BLESS TRUMP!


19 posted on 08/06/2023 9:21:54 AM PDT by rusureitflies? (Not much to say, yet.)
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