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The thief told the clerks to back off as he had a gun. At that time any type of force including deadly would be appropriate.
1 posted on 08/06/2023 11:44:25 AM PDT by artichokegrower
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The thief brandished a knife during the incident.


26 posted on 08/06/2023 11:52:38 AM PDT by Mr. N. Wolfe
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Thieves are now welcome to take everything they want from the Modesto Bee.

Open your doors, Modesto Bee.

🎵🎶🎶Let ‘em in.....doo doo doo doo🎵🎶🎶

(Wings)


27 posted on 08/06/2023 11:53:12 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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The Editorial Board does not read The Crime section of their own newspaper.


29 posted on 08/06/2023 11:55:02 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 ( I'm Proud To Be An Okie From Muskogee)
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There are problems with this encounter. And maybe the local politicians are right. The store owners were wrong to beat the shoplifter. I know it is easy to espouse after the fact and all of that. But, if the store owners had used a shotgun it would have TOTALLY eliminated repeat crimes.


30 posted on 08/06/2023 11:56:14 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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Self defense is indeed the only answer. Come into my shop and steal and baseball bat justice will be applied immediately.


31 posted on 08/06/2023 11:56:35 AM PDT by chopperk ( )
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Let the members of the editorial board writing this article find such a thief inside their home robbing them of security of their persons and posessions......

"They have insurance", right?

32 posted on 08/06/2023 11:56:49 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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TPTB routinely investigate situations like this. They inherently object to any commoner who in their minds challenge the monopoly on use of force that they claim as their exclusive right.

Well the barn door is open and the horse has escaped. Too little to late. People only accept the enforced anarchy so long. The exclusive right to use force is long gone. Welcome to Thunderdome.

38 posted on 08/06/2023 11:59:02 AM PDT by Polynikes (Nicht geimpft Mensch 2nd Klasse)
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I would not have minded if they had gone a bit further. Anyone who watched the video could see the thug thought he was entitled to everything the store owner possessed. Including possibly his life. He kept reaching for his back pocket and I thought at one point I saw a gun. He told him he had one so the clerks had reason to fear for their lives.


40 posted on 08/06/2023 11:59:49 AM PDT by CFW (I will not comply!)
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Although brazen stealing is frustrating, costly and dangerous to store employees, confronting it with violence that far exceeds self-defense is not the answer.

It is *EXACTLY* the answer.

People are sick of the law protecting criminals from the public, and now the public is starting to do something about it.

41 posted on 08/06/2023 12:00:18 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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If the law has abrogated their duty, then the law should FO and leave the citizens to fix the problem.


43 posted on 08/06/2023 12:01:02 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the Left, The Truth is Right Wing Violence⭐⭐)
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MODESTO BEE EDITORIAL BOARD loves to stand up for the criminal elements in society.


45 posted on 08/06/2023 12:03:51 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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They didn’t go too far. They allowed him to live.


48 posted on 08/06/2023 12:06:21 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (You can't remove RINOs by voting for them!)
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Yes he absolutely told them
He was armed no way I’m letting the little turn up if I go the jump on him.


51 posted on 08/06/2023 12:09:12 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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That’s right.


52 posted on 08/06/2023 12:11:19 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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Although brazen stealing is frustrating, costly and dangerous to store employees, confronting it with violence that far exceeds self-defense is not the answer.

Completely and totally the answer.

There was some lowlife in the UK who would go into people's homes and scare them for fun and "clicks". When asked why he said that no one would stop him and so it was ok. If it was wrong they would beat him. By their not beating him it meant they were weak, he was strong and it was ok for the strong to abuse the weak.

Let the beatings begin.

53 posted on 08/06/2023 12:11:40 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Follow the money. Even if it leads you to someplace horrible it will still lead you to the truth.)
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Sorry. Just as you said, if he says he’s got a gun that’s the point at which he’s paid for. It ought to be simple.


58 posted on 08/06/2023 12:16:41 PM PDT by OKSooner (XY, XYim, XY's)
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He kept reaching into his back pocket. He also challenged them that they could not do anything about it. What else could they do but show him they could.


62 posted on 08/06/2023 12:21:44 PM PDT by pas
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If the police, courts, DA's, mayors and legislators did their jobs, thieves would not be this brazen.
Leftists blames crime on "disenfranchisement", but it's hard working shop owners who are disenfranchised, robbed of their livelihood and they get no protection, no representation.
Pushing back like this is the only answer left now.
There will be more coming because politicians made it necessary.

63 posted on 08/06/2023 12:22:07 PM PDT by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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With all due disrespect, the Bee is wrong. The shopkeepers did the right thing and should have done more. Since the “law” does nothing, the citizens had the right to protect their lives and property.

The politicians want more of this kind of theft. It’s a down payment on the plan to turn over all the legitimate assets of this country to lazy, worthless, criminal slobs who blame all their failures on the hard-working productive people.


67 posted on 08/06/2023 12:31:38 PM PDT by I want the USA back (One's sex is determined by one's chromosomes. No one has the ability to change one's chromosomes.)
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How else dey gon' gets dey smokes?

That was the most disgusting, craven editorial I have ever seen. It is fully emblematic of the problem. Dox the editorialists so thwt Tyrone and D'Quavious can come and help themselves.

70 posted on 08/06/2023 12:40:04 PM PDT by Noumenon (You're not voting your way out of this. KTF)
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