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The US is growing increasingly frustrated with Ukraine's tactics. It could put the counteroffensive in jeopardy.
Business Insider via Yahoo ^ | September 4th, 2023 | Sophia Ankel

Posted on 09/04/2023 7:59:57 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: OKSooner

“There AIN’T no “pushing through” them, they’ll get blown to kingdom come if they try.”

They know all that, but they also cannot otherwise figure out a way to make substantial progress...and so Human Waves, here we come. The question is whether Ukraine has enough ‘humans’ left to make progress in de-mining.


41 posted on 09/04/2023 8:48:54 AM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BenLurkin

““Forward!” he cried from the rear
And the front rank died”

And the general(s) sat
And the lines on the map
Moved from side to side.


42 posted on 09/04/2023 8:49:52 AM PDT by Dogbert41 (“Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called children of God” -Matthew 5:9)
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To: BenLurkin

The cheerleaders sat
And the lines on the map
Hardly moved at all...


43 posted on 09/04/2023 8:52:07 AM PDT by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Mariner

If anyone can find a nugget of truth in what is happening in Ukraine from these articles or from the pompom waving on the forum with links to YouTube, good luck!


44 posted on 09/04/2023 8:52:31 AM PDT by CatOwner (Don't expect anyone, even conservatives, to have your back when the SHTF in 2021 and beyond.)
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To: BobL

We paid for this war, dammit. And if human meat can create enough mass to advance the front, and kill Russians along the way, then send in the human meat. No Americans are dying. Best military investment in US history.

(Quoting both Lindsay Graham and Mitt Romney)


45 posted on 09/04/2023 8:52:44 AM PDT by silverleaf (Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: foundedonpurpose

“It could jeopardize the Ukie offensive “…..

Could? The Ukie offensive has turned into a Ukie slaughter….by orders of senile Joe. Evil, pure evil.


46 posted on 09/04/2023 8:54:05 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Mariner
Half a dozen US officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, told The New York Times and other outlets that they are starting to question some of Ukraine's military tactics...

How about questioning how they're spending OUR taxpayer money... And they maybe one of Biden's goons can tell us how 'helping Ukraine' helps the US... Cause none of us can figure it out other than it sends a message that if you pay bribes to corrupt people in Washington you get your money's worth.

47 posted on 09/04/2023 8:58:08 AM PDT by GOPJ (Hunter Biden’s pet name for his father on his cellphone? It was “Pedo Peter”. -- Jim Hoft )
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To: dforest
“They urged Ukraine to push through the vast minefields left behind by Russia in the area, even if this means losing more soldiers and equipment in the process, according to the reports.”

Oh man, I would hate to stand before My Maker on Judgment Day and explain that recommendation.

48 posted on 09/04/2023 9:01:33 AM PDT by hcmama
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To: Mariner
Victoria Nuland and Anthony Blinken are under enormous political pressure to deliver a victory.

Even if we all get nuked in the process.

49 posted on 09/04/2023 9:02:21 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: alloysteel
The Forever War, much as it was predicted in George Orwell’s dystopian tale, “1984”. Complete with Groupthink.

And the Mother of All Sedition Acts....Criticize the government, go straight to jail, do not pass "Go", do not collect $200!

50 posted on 09/04/2023 9:03:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: kiryandil
Russia is in tatters. TATTERS, I tell you!

They've been Shattered! Shadoobie!

51 posted on 09/04/2023 9:04:38 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Dogbert41

Corpulent generals safe behind lines
History’s lessons drowned in red wine
Poppies for young men, death’s bitter trade
All of those young lives betrayed
All for a children’s crusade


52 posted on 09/04/2023 9:06:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: dfwgator

Yes. And to me that’s the problem here.

The left, guided by their own visions of the potential for much graft, greed and misdirecting of public funds, and the MIC’s own obvious reasons for support by supplying munitions they build is a very real danger on the “what could very well happen” stage.

This useless administration’s dreams of “squirreling” Ukraine to divert attention from its MASSIVE FAILURE in running this country for the last 2 plus years is their 2024 election ‘hopium’ with absolutely no regard of what might Russia be pushed into doing.


53 posted on 09/04/2023 9:14:35 AM PDT by Gaffer ( )
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To: Mariner

Some are making money.

Some are gaining power.

Some are dancing in the blood.

Some are cheering and quietly waiting to impose their iron grip.


54 posted on 09/04/2023 9:15:52 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer” )
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To: Mariner

Translation - The Biden administration is getting increasingly frustrated with its policy toward Ukraine, a policy that has never had a plan or strategy, just a moving reactive attempt to throw bare minimums of aid and wait and see “what works”. It was always a strategy that was not going to work, and now the Biden bunglers wants to blame Ukraine.


55 posted on 09/04/2023 9:18:12 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Mariner

Yeah, now we have Ukrainian Banderites protesting in Florida!


56 posted on 09/04/2023 9:31:41 AM PDT by struggle
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To: silverleaf

You are implying that those pieces of statements amount to quoting the three men you named which leaves an impression that all three support the Frankenstein sentences you put together, that is incredibly bizarre and you are the first person to create such a dishonest method.


57 posted on 09/04/2023 9:46:27 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Mariner

Will nuland, blinken, milley, etc. be the first ones pushing thru the minefield?


58 posted on 09/04/2023 9:57:02 AM PDT by dynachrome (War does not determine who is right, but who is left.)
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To: Mariner

Funny how peace talks is never mentioned by the left or RINOs at all.


59 posted on 09/04/2023 9:59:07 AM PDT by frogjerk (More people have died trusting the government than not trusting the government.)
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To: Gaffer; dfwgator

“The left, guided by their own visions of the potential for much graft, greed and misdirecting of public funds”

I believe there are 10s of millions of sincere do gooders on the side of Ukraine.

And they are dragging Ukraine, and the western world straight to hell.


60 posted on 09/04/2023 10:00:03 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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