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Putin is developing a sinister new plan for victory
The Telegraph via Yahoo ^ | September 5th, 2023 | Colonel Richard Kemp

Posted on 09/05/2023 11:51:48 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: Mariner

“North Korean leader Kim Jong-un’s planned meeting with Vladimir Putin in Vladivostok”

...or perhaps Putin is RESPONDING to the Neocons forcing South Korea to give up its 155’s. At this point, even if Russia cannot match the entire Western World in shell production, they certainly can when working with North Korea, which, by the way, means working with China.


61 posted on 09/05/2023 2:03:44 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Reverend Wright
Serbia = Kosovo and Yugoslavia

There were a series of conflicts as the former Yugoslavia broke down in the early to mid 90s. Then the U.S. was the honest broker in Paris between Kosovo and Serbia in 1999. When that peace conference ended without a resolution, Bill Clinton invaded Serbia for no foreign policy reason. That was a completely separate war than the earlier Yugoslavia breakdown war. Yemen wasn’t a major US deployment.

Splitting hairs. Obama joined in the invasion of Yemen, and Trump maintained it.

Somalia was Bush. Although in the best traditions of the UniParty, Clinton continued it.

Bush did send some the last month of his presidency, but the main action happened under Clinton.

62 posted on 09/05/2023 2:03:55 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: freeandfreezing

” Even the motors in their drones are imported, some illegally from western suppliers.”

Assuming they are coming from Western suppliers, might you be able to cite a particular treaty prohibiting this?

.....

Didn’t think so. The FACT is that legally-binding Sanctions have to be approved by the UN Security Council and that has not yet happened.


63 posted on 09/05/2023 2:11:27 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: nickcarraway

The Freepers who said that were the Uke shills screaming that this was why we needed to be involved on the Uke side or Russia was sure to attack Germany with their army that is 10% of the size of the Fulda Gap days of the Russian army.

EU and NATO shills were the ones saying it was stopped to conquer all of Ukraine in 3 days, then two weeks, and then that the Russians intended to attack Germany, presumably through Poland.

The only country that attacked Germany was us when we blew up Nordstream.


64 posted on 09/05/2023 2:15:17 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up..)
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To: ansel12

“I like reading articles like that, Russia’s invasion is having a very positive result for NATO, standardization, increased production, and adopting a strategy of holding larger ammo/weapon stocks are all greatly important improvements that were being ignored 19 months ago.”

I agree with you, which is why I’ve thought, from the outset, that starting a war against Russia (and now maybe China), is a REALLY STUPID IDEA until you have your own country (as in the US) on a footing capable of fighting that war.


65 posted on 09/05/2023 2:20:38 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Reverend Wright

“However, here is what they are actually doing, vs their rhetoric. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/germany-walks-back-plan-meet-nato-spending-target-annual-basis-2023-08-16/

Hey IDIOT, how is Germany supposed to arm-up to fight a war against Russia if the Neocons will no longer allow Germany to import VERY CHEAP Russian raw materials, particularly fuel?


66 posted on 09/05/2023 2:22:58 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: DesertRhino

“Probably not. And in desert storm, our forces were firing rounds from the 1950s. We emptied the magazines, there were over 54 different lots of 155 in country.”

If poof wants to stand next to an ancient Soviet/NK 152 landing 10 meters away, then he can GO FOR IT, but I suspect that most Neocon Cheerleaders will instead RUN FOR THE HILLS.


67 posted on 09/05/2023 2:25:29 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Reverend Wright

“LOL ! Serbia = Kosovo and Yugoslavia”

I don’t think you’re dealing with the brightest CFL in your pantry at this point...


68 posted on 09/05/2023 2:27:06 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BobL

That is why this Russian invasion is helping NATO and the West so much, we get the benefits of a startling wake-up call militarily yet without us being in a war.

China can’t be happy about this new Western awareness, unity, and preparations.


69 posted on 09/05/2023 2:27:56 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: freeandfreezing

“Russia’s plan to take over Ukraine in a few days”

Link please.


70 posted on 09/05/2023 2:28:29 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: charleywhiskey

“How did you get to see that plan? Do you read Russian?”

More than that, he must have A MOLE in the Russian General Staff.


71 posted on 09/05/2023 2:29:55 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: Mariner

An offensive west of Karkiv towards Kremenchuk could cut off the entire Ukrainian army. It’s a distance of about 135 miles from the Russian border to the Dnipro River. It looks to be open country, so air superiority would be a must. Elimination of the bridges south of Kremenchuk would also be needed.


72 posted on 09/05/2023 2:30:10 PM PDT by FarCenter
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To: freeandfreezing

Well, there’s always Chinese R&D…Rip-off and Duplicate.

They’re getting the stuff from somewhere.


73 posted on 09/05/2023 2:30:16 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: nickcarraway

“They were supposed to hold 100% of Ukraine after a week or two.”

Link, please.


74 posted on 09/05/2023 2:30:49 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: DesertRhino

There is probably a vast difference between American storage and Soviet storage.


75 posted on 09/05/2023 2:31:47 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: DesertRhino
The Freepers who said that were the Uke shills screaming that this was why we needed to be involved on the Uke side

No they weren't. These were diehard Russia worshippers who said Russia was going to slice through Europe.

You think NorseViking is a Uke shill? Did you have a brain injury?

76 posted on 09/05/2023 2:35:54 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ansel12

“That is why this Russian invasion is helping NATO and the West so much, we get the benefits of a startling wake-up call militarily yet without us being in a war. China can’t be happy about this new Western awareness, unity, and preparations.”

We still have a HUGE way to go. For example, have you heard of ANY NEOCON leader having a problem with Drag Queen shows in our Navy. Victoria Nuland is married to a man, probably has kids, maybe grandkids - yet is she bothered? Doesn’t seem so.

I also like the idea of Leftists FINALLY finding out what it means to have a crappy military - something they fought to have for DECADES...but no, I don’t even think they can comprehend it, because they seem HELL-BENT on starting a war with China now.

Fix our damn military FIRST, then go on your wars of conquest, NEOCONS.


77 posted on 09/05/2023 2:36:44 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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To: BobL

I’m glad you are happy about the effects of the Russian invasion on the Western military position, this is so much better than 19 months ago.


78 posted on 09/05/2023 2:44:56 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Mariner

What 76th Guards Air Assault Division doink? LOL!


79 posted on 09/05/2023 2:47:07 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: BobL

What 76th Guards Air Assault Division doink? What was Putin thinking? LOL!


80 posted on 09/05/2023 2:49:11 PM PDT by marcusmaximus
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