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Russian troops withdraw from Norway border in drop since start of Ukraine war: official
Fox News ^ | Danielle Wallace

Posted on 09/17/2023 9:29:00 AM PDT by lump in the melting pot

Norwegian chief of defense claims Putin 'knows very well' NATO is not a threat to Russia

Norway said Russian forces have pulled back from its border in the Arctic, claiming the number of soldiers Moscow has there now is "20% or less" compared to the start of the Ukraine war

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia; War
KEYWORDS: nato; norway; russia; warinukraine
Another data point proving that putin's lies about invading Ukraine to stop threat of NATO to russia is BS. He knows and everybody knows that having NATO on your border is the best guarantee you will never be invaded from that side.
1 posted on 09/17/2023 9:29:00 AM PDT by lump in the melting pot
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To: lump in the melting pot
This is good news then, right? It's clear that Putin is losing and will surrender any minute now, so we can stop sending Ukraine our hard-earned tax dollars now. He's dying of cancer anyway. Right? Right?
2 posted on 09/17/2023 9:32:00 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: lump in the melting pot

“He knows and everybody knows that having NATO on your border is the best guarantee you will never be invaded from that side.”

Given that NATO has pretty much dumped all of its ground weapons into Ukraine, you’re probably right - NATO’s now a paper tiger with nukes.


3 posted on 09/17/2023 9:32:20 AM PDT by BobL (I own an F150 so that I can tow my boat all day Saturday and look Manly)
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To: lump in the melting pot

Ok. Not falling for this swindle and if you did you are stupid.

The globohomos were not planning on breaking up Russia by invading through Norway. The well disclosed plan that Nuland and co were engaged in was to use Ukraine to isolate Russia, cut it off, break it up and take over the assets. You can’t isolate Russia through Norway.


4 posted on 09/17/2023 9:34:50 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: lump in the melting pot

> Norwegian chief of defense claims Putin ‘knows very well’ NATO is not a threat to Russia <

I have posted on FR many times that I consider Putin to be a war criminal. I stand by that opinion.

I have also posted that NATO is no threat to Russia, as NATO is purely a defensive organization. Another Freeper then pointed out that NATO went on the offensive in Libya and in Serbia. I was wrong.

So Putin does have reason to see NATO as a threat.


5 posted on 09/17/2023 9:37:55 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Leaning Right

Well if he sees it as a threat then why did he cut his border forces facing NATO down to 20% of their previous strength?


6 posted on 09/17/2023 9:39:37 AM PDT by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: lump in the melting pot

For the same reason that he is indifferent to Finland and Sweden joining NATO, it doesn’t threaten Russia.


7 posted on 09/17/2023 9:43:52 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: lump in the melting pot
> Well if he sees it as a threat then why did he cut his border forces facing NATO down to 20% of their previous strength? <

My guess is that he needs those troops in Ukraine.

Here’s where it might get interesting. As the war drags on, Ukraine will get weaker. But so will Russia. Now, China really wants Siberia. Will Russia become so weak that at some point China decides to “liberate” that region?

China’s dream:


8 posted on 09/17/2023 9:50:35 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: lump in the melting pot

Every single member of NATO has invaded Russia at one time or another. Including Greece. Including Italy. Including the United States.


9 posted on 09/17/2023 9:51:28 AM PDT by MattMusson (Sometimes the wind bweek.lows too much)
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You can’t isolate Russia through Norway.

You might want to study a map of that part of the world. Take over Murmansk Oblast & you control the entrance to the White Sea, and pretty much disrupt the Northern Fleet of the Russian Navy by denying them their ports. I'm not a military tactician but that certainly sounds like a valuable assets to protect, no?
10 posted on 09/17/2023 9:52:05 AM PDT by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: lump in the melting pot

Does anyone here think the Russian troops near Norway just might be needed in Ukraine?


11 posted on 09/17/2023 9:54:20 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
This is good news then, right? It's clear that Putin is losing and will surrender any minute now, so we can stop sending Ukraine

Sure, that's what we did in WW2, when we started to win, we stopped sending anymore weapons. Idiocy

12 posted on 09/17/2023 9:58:44 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: MattMusson
Every single member of NATO has invaded Russia at one time or another.

On September 17, 1939, Soviet Foreign Minister Vyacheslav Molotov declares that the Polish government has ceased to exist, as the U.S.S.R. exercises the “fine print” of the Hitler-Stalin Non-aggression pact—the invasion and occupation of eastern Poland.

13 posted on 09/17/2023 10:02:16 AM PDT by tlozo ( Better to Die on Your Feet than Live on Your Knees )
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To: lump in the melting pot

the front needs them more than the Norwegian border does...


14 posted on 09/17/2023 10:23:09 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: lump in the melting pot
Take over Murmansk Oblast

yeah. Gonna happen. Sure.

15 posted on 09/17/2023 10:45:13 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: AndyJackson

Why not, now that the frontier is undefended? If I remember my history at one point Norway had some claim on that region, maybe they want to re-exert it. China for sure is sharpening its talons to claw back some of its historic territory on the east side.


16 posted on 09/17/2023 11:03:27 AM PDT by lump in the melting pot (Believe nothing until it is denied by the Kremlin)
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To: tlozo

Not the same sorry


17 posted on 09/17/2023 11:14:56 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: lump in the melting pot
Due to the invasion of Ukraine, Russia has been reducing its troops on the borders of Norway and Finland and also rotating them out in order to train new troops.

Earlier in the war, Russia sent many of its trainers to fight in Ukraine. This resulted in wrecking Russia's training command without producing decisive results. After that, due to a lack of trainers and material, many new Russian troops have been sent to fight without training or adequate uniforms, gear, or weapons.

In a modern NATO country, those kinds of costly and brutal expedients would generate much political grief and would not be undertaken unless the circumstances were dire. In Russia though, brutal and costly has a low threshold and there is a high tolerance by the population for casualties, economic privation, and military defeat.

18 posted on 09/17/2023 12:24:32 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Leaning Right

China’s dream

Indeed not much land they don’t have a grip on now Africa is a jack pot too.


19 posted on 09/17/2023 2:33:03 PM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: MattMusson
Poor Russia. Never did nuthin’ to nobody.
20 posted on 09/17/2023 2:53:46 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (TANSTAAFL)
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