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Zelensky calls Putin a ‘second Hitler’ who could start World War III
NY Post ^ | 09/18/2023 | Melissa Koenig

Posted on 09/18/2023 9:41:40 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

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To: USA-FRANCE; Vaduz
Even though America signed in 1994 a The Budapest Memorandum Treaty assuring protection for Ukraine’s sovereignty and security...

If this garbage is repeated a few thousand more times maybe it will magically become true.

There was no Treaty. Ukraine wanted a Treaty and was refused. They settled for a Memorandum. A Memorandum is not a Treaty. A Memorandum is never a binding agreement.

Neither the United States, nor anyone else, assured Ukraine's sovereignty or security, except upon nuclear attack. Ukraine has not been attacked with nuclear weapons ... yet.

The MEMORANDUM is a MEMORANDUM and could not and did not create any binding legal promise by the United States, Russia or anybody else.

The actual language of the Memorandum makes clear the limits of what was assured.

Memorandum on security assurances in connection with Ukraine’s accession to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Budapest, 5 December 1994.

MEMORANDUM ON SECURITY ASSURANCES IN CONNECTION WITH UKRAINE’S ACCESSION TO THE TREATY ON THE NON-PROLIFERATION OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS

Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America,

Welcoming the Accession of Ukraine to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as a non-nuclear-weapon state,

Taking into account the commitment of Ukraine to eliminate all nuclear weapons from its territory within a specified period of time,

Noting the changes in the world-wide security situation, including the end of the Cold War, which have brought about conditions for deep reductions in nuclear forces,

Confirm the following:

1. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to respect the independence and sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.

2. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.

3. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the Principles of the CSCE Final Act, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.

4. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non­-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used.

5. The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America reaffirm, in the case of Ukraine, their commitment not to use nuclear weapons against any non-nuclear-weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, except in the case of an attack on themselves, their territories or dependent territories, their armed forces, or their allies, by such a state in association or alliance with a nuclear weapon state.

6. Ukraine, the Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and the United States of America will consult in the event a situation arises which raises a question concerning these commitments.

This Memorandum will become applicable upon signature.

Signed in four copies having equal validity in the Ukrainian, English, and Russian languages.

Since the day it was signed, the Memorandum was worth slightly less than the paper it was written on. Since being nullified by an actual treaty, the Minsk Accords, the Memorandum is worth nothing at all. It was never worth more than a referral to the UN Security Council where all named parties except Ukraine held a veto; or to a consultation among the states.

61 posted on 09/18/2023 12:04:45 PM PDT by woodpusher
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To: canuck_conservative
the fight for freedom & liberty is always a conservative’s fight

You're a Canadian who has lost your country to Fidel Castro's progeny, and now you slither over here demanding Americans pony up $billions in tax dollars in a war effort over borders, while our own border is over run. Go fight for Zelensky yourself, like you said you would more than a year ago, you coward.

62 posted on 09/18/2023 12:11:09 PM PDT by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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To: MeganC

Get real, meggie, he Closed Many Christians CHURCHES...hes EVIL...SO IS PUTIN!


63 posted on 09/18/2023 12:18:56 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: ChicagoConservative27
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Zelensky calls Putin a ‘second Hitler’ who could start World War III, ChicagoConservative27 wrote:
Someone projecting?

YES.

Ukraine Frantically Tries to Walk Back Zelensky Call for ‘Preemptive Strikes’ on Russia
 
10/07/2022 7:55:14 AM PDT · by ChicagoConservative27 · 125 replies

Breitbart ^ | 10/07/2022 | Frances Martel
The presidential press office of Ukraine accused global media outlets of “nuclear hysteria” on Thursday for sharing remarks made by President Volodymyr Zelensky in which he asked the world for “preemptive strikes” on Russia to avoid nuclear war.

 


64 posted on 09/18/2023 12:59:24 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Ann Archy

“Get real, meggie, he Closed Many Christians CHURCHES...hes EVIL...SO IS PUTIN!”

Tell me you’re not an American without telling me you’re not an American.


65 posted on 09/18/2023 1:52:51 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: PGR88

If only they had given him lifts for his shoes. Where is Randy Newman when you need him?


66 posted on 09/18/2023 3:16:13 PM PDT by Machavelli (True God)
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To: MeganC

WTH are you talking about?


67 posted on 09/18/2023 4:21:54 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: woodpusher

So we agree on the content of the Memorandum, that’s good.

However, the Minsk agreements did not nullify the Budapest Memorandum.

Budapest Memorandum: The Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances was an agreement signed in 1994 by Ukraine, Russia, the United States, and the United Kingdom. In this memorandum, Ukraine agreed to give up its nuclear weapons (WHICH INDEED THEY DID!), in exchange for security assurances from the other signatory countries. These security assurances included respect for Ukraine’s sovereignty and territorial integrity. Period.
Ukraine would NEVER have done such a HUGE move of getting rid of their nuclear weapons, without assurances! They RESPECTED their part of the deal.
Thus, it wasn’t a “toilet paper-deal” as you say...
Getting rid of ALL nuclear weapons, as they did, is an earth-shattering military-political move. You can’t ignore such a massive thing. Its the Power of the Budapest Memorandum.

Minsk Agreements: The Minsk agreements refer to a set of ceasefire agreements and peace initiatives aimed at resolving the conflict in Eastern Ukraine, particularly in the Donetsk and Luhansk regions. These agreements were brokered by the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) and included two main agreements, Minsk I (2014) and Minsk II (2015).

While the Minsk agreements were focused on addressing the conflict in Eastern Ukraine run by Russian separatists, they did not nullify the Budapest Memorandum.


68 posted on 09/18/2023 4:24:19 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: ChicagoConservative27; Extremely Extreme Extremist; cabojoe; Allegra; Rocco DiPippo; crz

What’s his FReeper account name ?


69 posted on 09/18/2023 4:33:14 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Logic is beyond your grasp, Pee-Air.


70 posted on 09/18/2023 4:35:10 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: bigbob

Wasn’t Lauren Boebert and Danny Masterson called Hitler this week ?


71 posted on 09/18/2023 4:37:20 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: canuck_conservative

Too bad you’ll never be one, Turd-Dough boy.


72 posted on 09/18/2023 4:41:56 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: MeganC

Can you talk to anyone without wishing death on them ?


73 posted on 09/18/2023 4:43:03 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Ann Archy

She just foams at the mouth.


74 posted on 09/18/2023 4:44:49 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Before talking about logics... the issue of true facts comes first.


75 posted on 09/18/2023 5:06:35 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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To: fieldmarshaldj
What’s his FReeper account name ?

We can rule out FReepers, they are great folks. What's the Zeeper account name?

76 posted on 09/18/2023 5:23:43 PM PDT by cabojoe ( 🇺🇸 Stop Ukie censorship. Release Gonzalo Lira)
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To: USA-FRANCE

Nobody has ever accused you Zelenskybots of ever posting true facts.


77 posted on 09/18/2023 5:38:36 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: cabojoe

True.


78 posted on 09/18/2023 5:39:19 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: canuck_conservative

yes it is just like Russia, and they use car bombs instead of polonium. And we just lock up people here using Garland and the FBI to fabricate evidence. But most are still alive for now.


79 posted on 09/18/2023 5:41:50 PM PDT by davidb56
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To: fieldmarshaldj

“Nobody has ever accused you Zelenskybots of ever posting true facts.”

>>>>>>>>>>

To be fair, I like your humor.

However, the fact that I support the 40 Trump policies here below, actually makes me a Trump-bot !

>>

{All facts below have been verified and are not contested by either the Democrats or Republicans}

—>

Arming Ukraine: The Trump administration provided lethal military aid, including Javelin anti-tank missiles, to support Ukraine in countering Russian-backed separatists.

Rejection of Russia’s Annexation of Crimea: Trump’s administration consistently rejected Russia’s annexation of Crimea and supported Ukraine’s territorial integrity.

Imposition of Sanctions: The Trump administration imposed several rounds of sanctions on Russia for actions like election interference, annexation of Crimea, and human rights abuses.

Expulsion of Russian Diplomats: In response to the Skripal poisoning in the UK, the U.S. expelled 60 Russian diplomats and closed the Russian consulate in Seattle.

Increased NATO Military Spending: Trump pressured NATO allies to increase defense spending to enhance the alliance’s capabilities against potential Russian aggression.

Withdrawal from INF Treaty: The U.S. under Trump officially withdrew from the INF Treaty, citing Russia’s violations.

Condemnation of Nord Stream 2: Trump criticized the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline project between Russia and Germany, expressing concerns over energy dependence and geopolitical leverage.

Accusations of Russian Cyberattacks: Trump’s administration publicly accused Russia of cyberattacks, including election interference and targeting critical infrastructure.

Support for European Allies: The Trump administration reaffirmed its commitment to supporting Eastern European countries against potential Russian aggression.

Suspension of INF Treaty Compliance: Before formally withdrawing from the INF Treaty, the U.S. suspended obligations under the treaty in response to Russia’s alleged violations.

Support for the Three Seas Initiative: The Trump administration expressed support for the Three Seas Initiative, promoting cooperation among Central and Eastern European countries to reduce dependence on Russian energy.

Presence in the Black Sea: The U.S. increased its naval presence in the Black Sea region to support allies and counter potential Russian aggression.

Magnitsky Act Enforcement: The Trump administration continued to enforce the Magnitsky Act, imposing sanctions on Russian officials accused of human rights abuses and corruption.

Expansion of U.S. Liquefied Natural Gas Exports: Trump aimed to increase U.S. LNG exports to Europe to decrease European reliance on Russian gas.

Sanctions on Russian Oligarchs: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian oligarchs with close ties to the Kremlin.

Support for Georgia and Moldova: The Trump administration reaffirmed support for Georgia and Moldova’s sovereignty and territorial integrity.

U.S. Cyber Command Actions: The U.S. Cyber Command took actions to disrupt Russian cyber operations.

Energy Diplomacy in Eastern Europe: Trump pursued energy diplomacy to promote energy diversification in Eastern Europe, reducing reliance on Russian gas.

U.S. Troop Deployment to Poland: The U.S. announced the deployment of 1,000 troops to Poland to counter Russian aggression.

Opposition to Russia’s Syria Policy: The U.S. opposed Russia’s military intervention in Syria and supported the opposition to President Bashar al-Assad.

Russian Private Military Companies Sanctions: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian private military companies, including Wagner Group.

Support for Belarusian Democracy: The Trump administration supported pro-democracy efforts in Belarus following disputed elections and protests.

Sanctions on Russian Banks: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian banks, including Sberbank and VTB Bank, for their roles in supporting Russian actions.

Export Controls on Technology: The U.S. tightened export controls on certain technology items to prevent their use in Russia’s military and intelligence activities.

Increased Military Aid to Eastern European Allies: The U.S. increased military aid and training to Eastern European countries, enhancing their defense capabilities.

Opposition to Russia’s Annexation of South Ossetia: The Trump administration opposed Russia’s recognition of South Ossetia’s independence from Georgia.

Support for Montenegro’s NATO Membership: The Trump administration supported Montenegro’s accession to NATO, despite Russian opposition.

Criticism of Russia’s Nuclear Weapons Development: Trump criticized Russia’s development of new nuclear weapons and delivery systems.

Support for Ukraine’s Reforms: The U.S. supported Ukraine’s reform efforts and anti-corruption measures.

Expanding the Black Sea Maritime Security Initiative: The U.S. expanded the initiative to enhance security cooperation among Black Sea countries.

Opposition to Russia’s Actions in Venezuela: The U.S. opposed Russia’s support for Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro during the political crisis.

U.S. Embassy Move in Israel: While not directly related to Russia, Trump’s decision to move the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem drew criticism from Russia and other countries.

Strengthening U.S. Cyber Defenses: The Trump administration worked to improve U.S. cybersecurity to counter potential Russian cyber threats.

U.S. Support for International Organizations: The U.S. supported international organizations that took actions against Russia, such as the UN and OPCW.

Criticism of Russia’s Intervention in Ukraine’s Presidential Elections: The U.S. condemned Russia’s interference in Ukraine’s elections.

Sanctions on Russian Intelligence Officers: The U.S. imposed sanctions on Russian intelligence officers involved in cyberattacks.

Refusal to Recognize Abkhazia’s Independence: The Trump administration did not recognize Abkhazia as an independent state, aligning with Georgia’s position.

Support for Kosovo-Serbia Dialogue: The U.S. supported the dialogue between Kosovo and Serbia, which Russia opposed due to its close ties with Serbia.

Support for Eastern Partnership Countries: The Trump administration supported the Eastern Partnership countries’ sovereignty and territorial integrity in the face of Russian pressure.


80 posted on 09/18/2023 6:07:24 PM PDT by USA-FRANCE
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