Posted on 09/20/2023 7:22:29 AM PDT by wastedyears
The kid broke the law. It sounds like your real issue is with the people who passed a very poorly written law. But you blame the cops. Why is that?
These are the people who get promoted. And I'm not really joking.
> “They threatened to arrest the kid.” The kid broke the law. <
Well, technically yes. But there is such a thing as “officer discretion”. The police are not bound to arrest someone (or even threaten arrest) in every instance. The girl in this case was much more of a victim than a perpetrator.
Officer discretion would have been the best move. Take the report. Sternly warn the girl and her father of the mistakes they made here. But keep the word “arrest” off the table. As it is now, the victim is more upset, the father is more upset, and the police have lost respect (unfairly or not). No winners.
Bottom line is the cop may have acted like a jerk, but legally he was correct, and many people are commenting that he was incorrect. The FR cop-hatred continues to amaze me. People take isolated instances and blame the entire profession. The truth is, doctors kill many, many thousands of people every year via avoidable medical mistakes. No one says a word. A cop is rude, and all cops are Nazis. It's just amazing.
> A cop is rude, and all cops are Nazis. <
That’s a very perceptive and very true statement. Many problems people have with the police stem from the rudeness thing. I’ve had experiences with bad doctors and bad plumbers. I’m sure they exist, but I’ve never once met a deliberately rude doctor or a deliberately rude plumber.
But deliberately rude cops are not at all unusual, at least in my experience. And I’m no Al Capone. I’m just a quiet older guy who is polite, and expects politeness in return.
I totally get the unique challenges and stresses of being a police officer. And it is very difficult to pivot, having to be tough one moment and polite the next. Yet politeness towards the public is important. It would do everyone good.
Not entirely true. In my sons department there are two bad cops. One’s a bully and a drunk and the other is lazy and a coward. The coward was hired over the objections of the then chief and other officers on the interview board-his mom and dad were friends with the mayor.
The drunken bully has violated numerous department policies and citizens civil rights. My son and five other officers from patrolman, to sergeant to lieutenants, signed affidavits spelling out his illegal acts and concerning this officers behavior (he stole from his fellow officers-caught on camera, falsified time sheets, and these are the minor infraction not his major civil rights violations). The result, the chief promoted him, let the bully see the affidavits and the mayor, city attorney and city council were informed and let it slide.
Sometimes plan old corrupt politics keep bad officers on the job and it makes good officers less likely to say anything when they have seen that doing the right thing puts a bullseye on their backs. The drunken bully tried to intimidate one of the other patrol officers verbally and physically who is smaller than him and not from this area originally. A new mayor was elected and a new chief came in and as soon as the drunk violated a department policy he was stripped of rank and put on notice his antics would no longer be tolerated—will see...
Can you explain what you are claiming?
The Cobb County Sheriff's Office is mandated by the Constitution of the State of Georgia and executes a broad range of services which include, but are not limited to: Jail Operations, Court Security, Criminal Warrant Execution, Civil Process Service, Mental Health Transports, Forgery/Fraud Investigation, and Fugitive Investigation and Apprehension.That doesn't sound like straight forward law enforcement in the State of Georgia.
Still, according to Dr. Clarissa Cole, fully half the people she flat out failed on their psych eval were hired anyway.
Source here
(Start at 1:18:31)
Dr. Cole: He had an epiphany; he was going to become a cop!
Eric Olsen: Ha ha ha what??? Uh, so, wait a minute, he was told by a former employer, if you ever, you better never get a job where you have influence over others, an authority position, or I’ll do whatever it takes to stop you. So wouldn’t becoming a cop kinda give him the ultimate authority over people?
Dr. Cole: Well, you know, lucky for all these other people, he kept moving from county to county so they weren’t really, uh, yeah, it is the ultimate authority he was just moving around so people wouldn’t know what he was doing, and I think getting out of the teaching profession they didn’t know what he was going to do.
He eventually applied to the Broward County Police Unit; he was rejected, though, because he failed the psychological test.
Eric Olsen: Oh that’s it he’s out of the career. No career for him He’s obviously unstable…
Dr. Cole: One, you know what? One would think so, and I actually used to perform these psych tests, and oh, do I have stories! You would think that it would even, it’s supposed to, let me tell you how it’s supposed to work, it’s supposed to prevent you from getting a job as a police officer or a prison guard.
Eric Olsen: Sure.
Dr. Cole: Does that always occur?
Eric Olsen: I would hope that it does.
Dr. Cole: No, no, no, I would say 50% of the time.
Eric Olsen: What?
Dr. Cole: It’s supposed to be a be a requirement, a REQUIREMENT, if you don’t pass, if you are not psychologically fit, you are not supposed to become a police officer or a prison guard. Does that actually preclude you from becoming a police officer even as long ago as what, 2005? No, I was doing them in 2005. Half of the people I rejected still became a cop.
Eric Olsen: How does that happen? How do they get around this?
Dr. Cole: Oh God there so many ways
Eric Olsen: Is it a buddy, a dad?
Dr. Cole: My son, he’s the son of my buddy, his dad is a cop, he has to be a cop, he’s going to work in this county and we’re really understaffed, we need people, we know he failed, but it’s OK. The amount of excuses I heard to employ people.
And that’s the thing, just so the general public is aware, it’s difficult to fail, it’s difficult to fail one of these psychological…
Eric Olsen: What would cause one…
Dr. Cole: It’s not like the bar is so darned high that no one could pass, it’s nothing LIKE that, this test is just to find out is this person basically psychologically stable, are they non-sadistic, do they not have criminal or punishing tendencies or narcissistic tendencies themselves. Basically you’re trying to weed out anybody that has a like God complex; I’m judge, jury, and executioner. You want to get those people out of there. You’re trying to get people out of there that are just psychiatrically so unstable that they can’t control their emotions so, maybe some sort of bipolar thing going on or somebody that absolutely clearly has a personality disorder, like narcissistic personality disorder, antisocial personality disorder, borderline personality disorder. They are not
Eric Olsen: Checks and balances. Checks and balances to protect the general public from somebody that would not do well in that position.
Dr. Cole: And I was very, yeah, I was extremely, forgiving on these psychological tests even when somebody would sort of hit sort of some of those marks on the tests we would give, I would ask in interviews I would ask a ton of questions just to be very, very sure that this person was indeed failing the psychological exam, and I did not fail that many people, but the people I failed, please believe me that it was for extremely good reasons, extremely good reasons, and half of them became cops anyway.
Eric Olsen: So when they‘d leave would they go to a different state and do it?
Dr. Cole: Hah no, they would get hired by different a county, like a couple minutes over usually. Somebody knew them and “Now let’s pick them up.” “No, no, no, he has really strong sadistic tendencies and fantasies of rape and murder, you really shouldn’t hire him” and they would. And that’s exactly, I hope it’s different that was like I said, this was in 2005, it scared the heck out of me and I said I would never have a career doing that I don’t want to know that those people are becoming officers.
Eric Olsen: Tell me it’s in the minority, though, that this happens.
Dr. Cole: It’s in the minority that people fail, the majority of people passed. But those that do fail, like I said it’s for very good reason, but half of them. Half of them got picked up. So no, it’s not a minority a full 50% got hired.
Eric Olsen: That is truly a scary number out there that 50% of...
Dr. Cole: It’s a small sample, a small sample that was in a place that was economically depressed and needed officers…
(End at 1:23:29)
Still, there are some out there in all these areas that are doing the hard work of bucking the bad trends, and I feel more than ever the need to encourage the good. Thinking too much about the bad ones just gets me angry and nowhere.
I had to click on a “Not now” button underneath the video frame to start the video. I think it was asking you to subscribe to tiktok. (I’m not a subscriber either)
I’ll try that.
I see the specific video in question.
Threaten to arrest a little girl after she was victimized by a predator. /sigh That's not the way to run a police force. It is not up to the police officers to "scare children straight."
Hi. She's in bed now.This is maddening. The police officers told the father that they could arrest his daughter. Dante described a place for these officers.What so happened?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just. Some whole point.
I just want you guys come over, talk to her.
And I saw her realize what this was.
I mean, reality is how much I can do about it.
I mean, she could probably get charged with child porn.
Who? She can.
She's 11 years old.
She's creating it, right?
She's 11 years old.
Doesn't matter.
She's still making porn.
No, she's not.
She's being manipulated by a grown ass adult.
Is she taking pictures of guys?
Have a nice seat.
Thank you for coming.
Are you serious?
Have a nice seat.
The cop should never have started out making those statements, but those statements were technically true. It's a bad law! Blame the politicians, not the cops. Nobody was going to put cuffs on the kid. That was never on the table.
Never mind the furthermore...
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