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Ukraine's breach of Russian defenses could be short-lived — analysts predict a hard and fast counterstrike
Business Insider via Yahoo ^ | September 22nd, 2023 | Sophia Ankel,Mia Jankowicz,Thibault Spirlet

Posted on 09/22/2023 9:40:17 AM PDT by Mariner

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To: MeganC

 

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Ukraine's breach of Russian defenses could be short-lived — analysts predict a hard and fast counterstrike, MeganC wrote:

That “rabble” has spent coming into two years of ending Ruzzia’s claim to superpower status. Seriously, when you insult the Ukrainian army you are making an even bigger insult to the Russian army that can’t defeat Ukraine.

That “rabble” has spent over $113 Billion American tax payer dollars, much of it siphoned off in fraud, while losing their infrastructure and soldiers to Putin when they should have negotiated. This is NATO's war and the rabble are being expended as cannon fodder, so they can't claim to have delayed Putin - the combined forces of NATO, with most of the funding coming from America, were required for that.

That rabble wants to get the US into WWIII to protect the Biden family crimes in the Ukraine, starting with the bio warfare labs. America doesn't want to be used as cannon fodder for NATO's proxy war - stop sending the rabble money, make them negotiate.


41 posted on 09/22/2023 12:24:09 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ConservativeInPA
You sound like a Russian. Did they have Shashlik today in the cafeteria?

Check out these residents of Sevastopol watching the Russian Black Sea Fleet headquarters getting destroyed.

Turn on the sound so you can know what an incoming NATO supplied cruise missile sounds like.

42 posted on 09/22/2023 12:28:55 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ransomnote

Are you really so naive as to believe the Russian nonsense about bio labs?


43 posted on 09/22/2023 12:30:30 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ransomnote

Ruzzia picked a fight and is getting their Ruzzian azzes kicked right back to Ruzzia.

At the end of this their military and economy will be shattered. It will be a very long time before they pose a threat to anyone ever again and that makes $113 billion money well spent.


44 posted on 09/22/2023 12:40:06 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: silverleaf
Do you really believe that nonsense? Ukraine agreed to destroy the 1000 nuclear warheads it was given when it left the Soviet Union, along with the intercontinental ballistic missiles it had to launch them in return for a promise of protection by the USA.

Those missiles and warheads belonged to Ukraine.

45 posted on 09/22/2023 12:50:14 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: hardspunned
Actually the trenches just organize the Russians so that they are easy to eliminate with drones.

Watch these Russians learn about drones

What don't you see? Any Ukrainian infantry. They'll come later to pick up the leftover guns and ammunition and gather a few patches.

46 posted on 09/22/2023 1:00:50 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: MplsSteve

kursk

German super tanks

charged - advanced into a dust storm

were bull dozed by cheap russian tanks


47 posted on 09/22/2023 1:04:16 PM PDT by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
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To: silverleaf

Most western articles and commenters seem not to understand the elaborate defensive scheme Russia constructed while Ukraine was repeatedly forecasting their “counteroffensive” and providing details of it. It’s designed to have crush points, which the Russian forces are then prepared ed to essentially encircle and eliminate. It’s a clever and apparently effective system, especially given Ukraine’s lack of air cover and diminishing personnel and equipment strength. My description is hopefully helpful but only touches the surface.


48 posted on 09/22/2023 1:14:27 PM PDT by Palmetto State Conservative
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To: MeganC

Russia’s economy is doing great, they just replaced Germany as the world’s 5th largest GDP. Russian gasoline cost half as much as ours does. It is the wests whose economies are suffering. The sanctions backfired and BRICs is expanding. The west military stores are depleted after giving it all to the Ukes, meanwhile the Russians have ramped up 24/7 wartime production.

Sad


49 posted on 09/22/2023 1:14:27 PM PDT by CapandBall
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To: wardaddy
Just to make Putin bleed a little as they transform our world into their vision of utopia with they as elites above the morass of the new man Classic messianic humanism same as the same bunch had worshipped for generations now

red diaper babies

Orphan - bastard - mutant children of communism ( dnc - usa / nato - ukraine)

anarchy - drugs - atheism - evolution - diversity

abandoned

just want their revenge on their parents ( russia )

same formula for all of the school shootings too

exitentialism ( pc liberalism ) - death

50 posted on 09/22/2023 2:01:53 PM PDT by Firehath (Quackery - An irrelevant simplification / undetected Complex problem - attacking symptoms)
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To: CapandBall

Russia is doing great which is why they’re begging North Korea to give them weapons and ammunition. Right.


51 posted on 09/22/2023 2:09:38 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Mariner

Putin toying with Biden making him blow money on Ukraine while Putin has oil to sell at $90.00 a barrel he ain’t broke.

When you have a fish on the line play it.


52 posted on 09/22/2023 2:26:17 PM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: freeandfreezing; Allegra; ransomnote; kiryandil
"You sound like a Russian. Did they have Shashlik today in the cafeteria?"

You must be Eastern European, most likely a Youke, because almost no American would know WTF you're talking about.

Now I'm going to try speaking to you in your Youcraynian native language. Here goes: When's the last time you have glass of bulbinskya while doink the plokinsky with stronk grobinmmskyia babushka who shave her chinhairskies with the Old Spicesky?

53 posted on 09/22/2023 2:27:36 PM PDT by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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To: MeganC
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Ukraine's breach of Russian defenses could be short-lived — analysts predict a hard and fast counterstrike, MeganC wrote:

Ruzzia picked a fight and is getting their Ruzzian azzes kicked right back to Ruzzia.

At the end of this their military and economy will be shattered. It will be a very long time before they pose a threat to anyone ever again and that makes $113 billion money well spent.

NATO picked a fight, threw the Ukraine into the meat grinder and is still losing. Biden family crime initiatives have impoverished America and people like you are still lying as if Russia is losing. In fact you're the only one suggesting Russia is being sent back to Russia - no one else tried to push reality that far out of alignment with the facts.

Your lies must be desperate attempts to keep the 'foreign aid' money flowing even though you know Americans have had enough and the free billions are coming to a close. The US has been paying the salaries and pensions of the puppet officials 'in charge' in the Ukraine and that money is going to stop flowing. The Ukrainian economy and infrastructure are gone so now it's just 'land' that Russia and other Ukrainian neighbors will divide amongst themselves.

54 posted on 09/22/2023 3:01:51 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

“NATO picked a fight”

How? By letting countries who wanted to be free from Russian aggression to join the alliance?

If so then Ruzzia is a bully that needs to be defeated, broken up, and ended as a threat to their neighbors.

Ironically, that would effectively bring about the end of NATO.


55 posted on 09/22/2023 3:09:29 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: Rocco DiPippo

😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣


56 posted on 09/22/2023 3:13:31 PM PDT by Allegra (Stop the Zeepers from Censoring FReepers)
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To: freeandfreezing

Ukraine never had OPCON of the Soviet nukes deployed on its territory ( nor did Kazakhstan or Belarus).

https://www.defense.gov/News/Releases/Release/Article/3057517/fact-sheet-on-wmd-threat-reduction-efforts-with-ukraine-russia-and-other-former/

Ukraine Has No Nuclear Weapons Program

During the Cold War, the Soviet military stationed a sizable number of nuclear weapons in Ukraine, believed to be around 1,800 nuclear warheads as well as strategic bombers and nuclear-armed intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs). There were also several locations in Ukraine where Soviet tactical nuclear weapons were stored. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia retained control of these weapons under the aegis of the Commonwealth of Independent States.

Ukraine assumed obligations under the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START I) in 1992 as a successor state to the Soviet Union, and in 1994 joined the Treaty on Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT) as a non-nuclear-weapon State Party, renouncing the Soviet legacy nuclear weapons that had been deployed or stored in Ukraine.

The transfer of all nuclear weapons from Ukraine to the Russian Federation was completed by 1996, in return for reactor fuel for peaceful uses and security assurances from Russia, the United States, and the United Kingdom as set forth in the 1994 Budapest Memorandum. All ICBMs were dismantled or removed from Ukraine, and all nuclear missile silos in Ukraine were destroyed.


57 posted on 09/22/2023 3:14:30 PM PDT by silverleaf (Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: Rocco DiPippo
I'm beginning to think that stories like "The Great Crimean Victory Over The Russian Fleet" may be a GOOD thing.

The more Ukie Stupes that believe that swill, the more Ukies that will run in to the Russian guns, increasing the IQ of the remaining Ukrainians by winnowing the herd of The Stupes.

Eventually, the collective Ukrainian IQ will be high enough for them to realize that negotiations with the Russians are the thing to do.

Along with ceaușescu-ing the Piano Puppet and his Azov guy guards.

58 posted on 09/22/2023 3:25:27 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: Dr. Franklin
Eventually, that could lead to another Russian Revolution like 1917.

I doubt it. Putin is not mobilizing in Moscow and St. Petersburg. Cannon fodder is drafted outside those two metro regions so they won't pose a threat to Putin.

The war will end when Putin's army gets depleted.

59 posted on 09/22/2023 3:33:35 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: MeganC

 

In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Ukraine's breach of Russian defenses could be short-lived — analysts predict a hard and fast counterstrike, MeganC wrote:

“NATO picked a fight”

How? By letting countries who wanted to be free from Russian aggression to join the alliance?

If so then Ruzzia is a bully that needs to be defeated, broken up, and ended as a threat to their neighbors.

Ironically, that would effectively bring about the end of NATO.

NATO overthrew the Ukrainian government, with the help of our CIA, and installed puppets, trained and equipped a 600K army and encroached on regions Russia has said for decades would be a red line. NATO wanted regime change and rather than attack directly, it put biowarfare labs on Russia's border, made moves to get the Ukraine into NATO, worked to threaten Russian sovereignty all for the purpose of provoking war and replacing Putin with their own puppet. NATO wants to rule the world - this is their agenda and they are losing the war they provoked.


60 posted on 09/22/2023 3:51:03 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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