Posted on 09/22/2023 9:40:17 AM PDT by Mariner
Ukraine breached Russia's defensive line on Wednesday and was able to deploy vehicles past it.
It was a major achievement, but analysts said Russia would respond with a harsh counterattack.
Even if Ukraine holds, it still has more defenses to overcome, they noted.
Russia will strike hard and fast in a counterattack against Ukrainian troops who breached its main defensive line with armored vehicles this week, analysts told Insider.
Ukraine took a major step forward Wednesday, seeming to push past a fierce defensive line in the southest of the country with vehicles for the first time.
Ukraine breached the area near the village of Verbove in the southeastern Zaporizhzhia region. It was a major dent in the so-called "Surovikin Line", but there are more layers of defense to go.
Ukraine still has a hard fight ahead, experts on the war told Insider.
Marina Miron, a researcher at the Department of War Studies at King's College London, was one.
"There is about a mile to the actual village of Verbove, which means Ukrainian soldiers will have to cross open fields and face Russian artillery fire and Russian drones," she told Insider.
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Is Mia Jankowicz related to Nina?
The troops used to do this were fodder for Zel’s new American fundraising junket.
“See, we had a ‘breakthrough,’ send more gazillions.”
I’m no military historian - but this sounds a lot like the German counter-attacks at Kursk during WWII. The Russians had multiple layers of defense and had no qualms about killing as many of their soldiers as possible as long as they bled the Germans just as bad.
I foresaw this about a year ago. I pictured the Russians would try to bleed the Ukrainian armed forces as much as possible. Eventually, Ukraine would be incapable of mounting any offense.
I totally get it that the Ukes want to push the Russians off their territory - but it know appears as though that may not be possible. they may wish to establish a more hit and run defense where they can keep the Russians at bay with smaller and sharper strikes.
“We are pushing through,” an unnamed Ukrainian officer involved in the fighting told the outlet. “We are destroying them. But the price …”
Maybe “It’s a Trap!”
Everyone wants to get a picture of Zelensky especially Zelensky.
I have first hand account that uke units are convalescing in U.S. bases in Germany with casualty rates 50-80%
It’s a travesty
And unsustainable
Just to make Putin bleed a little as they transform our world into their vision of utopia with they as elites above the morass of the new man
Classic messianic humanism same as the same bunch had worshipped for generations now
I think the analogy is apt. Although im unsure if the Russians have the potential to launch a major counterattack like the Red Army did in ‘44.
As a side note I listened to the Military Summary channel this morning and he said the Ukr attacks in their one “breakthrough” (not true really has they only broke the first line) have became “suicidal”.
He explained this is what the Ukr have to do:
1.Move their forces from many km away under drone attack, some missile.
2. Get onto secondary roads and fields as they get closer and receive long range arty attacks.
3. At 4 km they are under such heavy bombardment the vehicles must DISGORGE the infantry or be destroyed
4. The infantry must now run, scramble and crawl 4 km carrying ammo, water and weapons arriving at the actual line exhausted!
5. They die, or are wounded and/or retreat.
Repeat and rinse.
Awful.
The Vietnamese lost 20 to one in manpower against the USA and still lost the war.
In this near peer conflict, it is probable casualties are roughly equal on both sides.
To make clear, the Vietnamese lost 20 to 1 in manpower against the USA and still won the war against the USA.
From the article: “Ukraine breached Russia’s defensive line (singular) on Wednesday and was able to deploy vehicles past it.”
Note the title of the article specifies ‘...breach of Russian defenses...’ (plural)
The Russians had 3 defensive lines to start this thing and when the Ukrainians started making some headway through one of them (tactic: use human sacrifices), the Russians began laying in a 4th line of defenses so that when the Ukrainians broke through a line (singular) there would be more lines of defenses (plural) preventing them from engaging the enemy.
Also, while the Ukrainians were working on that singular line, the Russians mined their retreat path. It’s gory business. This soundbyte is for money as Zelensky tours the world with his hand out. Remember that magazine cover with his wife (beard?) and a pile of money on the table?
Admiral Victor Sokolov, Commander of the Black Sea fleet had a run in with a Storm Shadow. He did not survive.
Welcome to the kill zone Ukrainian scum. Burn in hell.
“Big Serge ☦️🇺🇸🇷🇺 @witte_sergei When we say a line is beached, we don’t mean that a small infantry unit reconnoitered it.
We mean a gap forced open, wide and stable enough for combat assets and sustainment to continually flow through. This requires significant combat power and engineering work.
” Defense in Depth is another concept they seem to be overlooking as they ululate. The main body of Russian reinforcements is still 2-3 echelons down the map, and the Ukes as the attackers need a 3:1 advantage to take them on by the time they reach that point …not happening. The Uke units, under Russian artillery ATGMs, drones, FAB attacks……are bleeding…literally.
The missile hit the Russian Black Sea Fleet commander’s freaking office while he was having a meeting ! LOL!
I wonder if there is a way to accelerate the killing, to waste more human lives in this stupid, seemingly endless struggle. If we could kill faster maybe we could get to the end of this absurdity quicker.
Keep it up boys! Just a little bit longer, until that $25 billion check to the IMF and Clinton Foundation clears!
The first line of defense is meant to be broken. That allows the Ukes into the Russian designed killing zones. The Ukes haven’t been cooperating by even getting that far.
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