Posted on 09/25/2023 1:48:30 PM PDT by chickenlips
Rep. Harriet Hageman (R-WY) appeared on the Line Drive podcast and called for term limits for federal bureaucrats.
Hageman appeared on the Line Drive podcast, which is hosted by Tim Murtaugh, former Donald Trump 2020 communications director and executive vice president at National Public Affairs; Hogan Gidley, former Trump White House deputy press secretary and Trump 2020 national spokesman; and Kaelan Dorr, a Trump White House and 2020 campaign alumni. Sonny Joy Nelson, another Trump 2020 communications official, also hosts the show.
Hageman called for term limits for federal bureaucrats on the Line Drive podcast. She said that the lawmakers are accountable to the American people via elections.
“We have people that have been in some of these agencies for 25, 30 years. You bring in a legislator, and it’s pretty difficult to compete with that, especially if you term limit us,” she contended.
She called to limit the number of times that a particular bureaucrat could work at a specific agency and then limit the overall time that a bureaucrat could work in the federal government.
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There should not be an elected office in this nation without term limits.
I dont necessarily disagree with you, but consider this: Take the Energy dept for example. There are people there whose job it is to write energy efficient refs for appliances. They need to keep writing them or there is no longer any reason for their job. So they bear down on things that don’t need attention, like gas stoves and ceiling fans. If their jobs needed to be reauthorized specifically, rather than come under appropriations generally, it might be easier to slow down the endless bureaucratic machine
She is on the right track—with a few enhancements her proposal could do a lot of good:
—Focus the term limits on SES federal employees. They are the true lifetime policy drivers.
—When their time is up they have mandatory retirement and a lifetime ban on working in the industry they regulated and/or any other government agency—federal, state, local—and a lifetime ban on lobbying for anybody. That ban would include non-profits that ever received grants from their agency.
If that is not good enough you might have to permanently ban them from entering the DC metro area for the rest of their lives....
;-)
I assumed those SES staffers was the ones she was referring to. They are the ones that get “converted” to career civil service and slow walk anything a republican president puts forth
The “revolving doors” are what are stunningly toxic—they are essentially bribes paid in advance or after the fact.
Almost every federal agency has this corrupt self-dealing arrangement with corporations or non-profits who receive contracts, grants or loans.
Go Wyoming!
“There should not be an elected office in this nation without term limits.”
We have them. They’re called elections. What needs to be reformed is the election process.
Hagerman is in her very first term. She won the seat formerly waddled in by Liz Cheney.
She hasn’t been any problem with term limits and I think she’d like to see them put in place for all.
NO!!!
Congressmen and elected officials are the only branch of government over which you have some control. Fed.gov / deep-state bureaucracy are permanent, unelected policy makers, with $$ billions at their disposal. Comey ran a coup against a President and interfered in a national election, Fauci shut down entire country, Wolensky forced an unwanted vaccine upon the nation. Who ever elected or got a chance to vote for these people?
This congresswoman is absolutely correct to call for Fed.gov bureaucratic term limits. Also, the same should apply to all government spending programs.
Term Limits for the people you elect play directly into the hands of the permanent deep-state
Sure, you're "angry" but don't fall for the scam
Since Congress morphed into Congre$$ it’s not likely they would allow them to be imposed. Like the one post said elections are our only path to term limits but that doesn’t seem to work too good.
"Rep. Harriet Hageman Calls for Term Limits for Federal Bureaucrats"
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With all due respect to Rep. Hageman, the remedy for so-called career federal bureaucrats is not term limits imo.
The problem for probably many (most?) federal bureaucrats is that their jobs are based on state powers that the unconstitutionally big federal government has stolen from the states.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." —United States v. Butler, 1936.
In other words, Democratic and Republican Trump-supporting patriots are going to need to support Trump in not only finishing draining the swamp, but also in surrendering state powers that the corrupt, post-17th amendment ratification feds have been stealing from the states for many generations back to the states.
More specifically, once unconstitutional federal taxes are stopped and the 16th (16A; direct taxation) and 17th (17A; popular voting for federal senators) Amendments (16&17A) are repealed, the states will ultimately find a tsunami of new revenues that they will ideally be able to use hire former federal bureaucrats to do the same work for their respective states that they had formerly been doing for the unconstitutionally big federal government.
From the congressional record:
”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)
In the meanwhile, the next major political event in US is not for Democratic and Republican Trump-supporting patriots to reelect Trump, but for patriots to primary ALL incumbent state and federal lawmakers and executives in 2024 primaries, except for MTG, Gaetz, Hawley (and others?).
After all, lawmakers and executives continue to show that they do not have the patriotism and leadership skills necessary to find legislative support for effective remedies for unconstitutional government policies.
Exclusive: Marjorie Taylor Greene ‘Dumbfounded’ GOP Colleagues Will Not Call for Biden’s Impeachment! (6.10.23)
In fact, since one of the very few powers that the states have expressly constitutionally given to the big, bad federal government to dictate peacetime domestic policy is to run the US Mail Service (most federal domestic policy actually based on stolen state powers imo), the worst problem that the country would otherwise be looking at with a new Congress of Trump-supporting freshman lawmakers is arguably a delay with mail delivery.
"Article I, Section 8, Clause 7: To establish Post Offices and post Roads;"
"From the accepted doctrine that the United States is a government of delegated powers, it follows that those not expressly granted, or reasonably to be implied from such as are conferred, are reserved to the states, or to the people. To forestall any suggestion to the contrary, the Tenth Amendment was adopted. The same proposition, otherwise stated, is that powers not granted are prohibited [emphasis added]." —United States v. Butler, 1936.
Trump can endorse candidates from lists that patriots who respect the federal government's constitutionally limited powers provide for him, as long as candidates are not incumbents, candidates also promising to repeal the 16&17A after they win office.
Consider the repealing of 16&17A as part of reparations for taxpayer victims of the federal government for having to pay a lifetime of unconstitutional federal taxes, taxes that Congress cannot reasonably justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers and a few other constitutionally enumerated expenses.
"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States." —Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.
“If the tax be not proposed for the common defence, or general welfare, but for other objects, wholly extraneous, (as for instance, for propagating Mahometanism among the Turks, or giving aids and subsidies to a foreign nation, to build palaces for its kings, or erect monuments to its heroes,) it would be wholly indefensible upon constitutional principles [emphases added].” — Justice Joseph Story, Commentaries on the Constitution 2 (1833).
Patriots, let's not allow ourselves to be fooled for third time in 2024 by the corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties that have pirated control of state and federal governments.
The definition of insanity is reelecting your beloved career state and federal lawmakers and executives over and over again, expecting those same politicians to find remedies for unconstitutional government policies every time.
As a side note to this post, consider that probably the main reason that we hear media complaints about the electoral college is that it is the only thing stopping the corrupt political parties from establishing a puppet presidency that will unquestioningly sign unconstitutional taxing and spending bills into law.
Technically there’s term limits in Congress.. problem is the idiots that vote for the same morons over and over.
Love this woman
Gaetz pressed McCarthy for a vote on a term limit bill. let’s get it on the record.
Term limits are a MUST HAVE
Which takes a Constitutional Amendment and will likely never pass.
If all you gutless wonders in Congress did their job
She got rid of Liz Cheney, which was a huge accomplishment in itself. Go easy on her, OK?
“Rep. Harriet Hageman (R-WY) appeared on the Line Drive podcast and called for term limits for federal bureaucrats.”
Actually, term limits for bureaucrats would do more than term limits for congress critters. The voters can throw congress critters out. There’s nothing we can do to got rid of entrenched bureaucrats.
No - SES is a small subset of career civil service.
I’ll agree it’s the most dangerous subset.
I like it Ms Hageman. I agree with her...
Let’s have term limits for bureaucrats because Congress refuses to cut their budgets? No Congress needs to do its job.
As long as they have money to pay bureaucrats you will have bureaucrats. Just getting new ones isn’t the answer, because they get increasingly worse.
Term limit Congress and pass a balanced budget amendment. Cut their grift short and give them little money to buy votes with.
None of those Luke be an issue of republicans actually did what they tell their constituents they are going to do, instead of stabbing everyone in the back.
But then again, as for term limts, there’s a simple process….STOP VOTING FOR THEM.
Give them one chance. If they don’t do what they campaigned on, NEXT.
The reason they do what they do is because they know lazy and complacent voters will continue to send them back.
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