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To: Redmen4ever
I suppose you’re here to educate me. According to you, Trump had nothing to do with the loss of McCain’s seat and our other problems in Ga., because “everybody” other than McCain’s wife (who was rich) knew McCain was a bad guy, and this is why “everybody” who used to vote for McCain voted against the non-McCain Republican who ran to succeed him when he passed away.

Maybe so, time will tell if that is the case or not. The GOPe owns Az. & Cindy McCain owns the state's GOPe apparatus as the party's major funding source. She's not really a very nice woman at all. John Kyl was selected by Ducey to replace John McCain, who then stepped down, though I can't remember why, and then Ducey picked Martha McSally to replace Jon Kyle. When Martha McSally ran for the seat she won the Republican candidacy but lost to Kyrsten Sinema. Kyrsten Sinema just adored John McCain, and lo & behold she she wins as the Democrat, but who is now an Independent. See how the Uni-party stays in power yet?

And, according to you, Trump losing Georgia had nothing to do with our problems in down ticket races in 2020; and, according to you, it’s best we not even talk about the celebrity candidate we had in 2022.

No, the whole point is that the Republican Party doesn't really exist anymore, & hasn't for quite sometime. It is just a perfunctory opposition party that is owned & controlled by the Democrat Party. Existing only to provide an illusion that, "We The People" are selecting our leaders. So perhaps I am here to educate you, because nothing you have said so far is the reality. You are just spouting the illusion presented to all that elections are still held in earnest. Name a win they actually provided, & don't say Ronald Reagan, because they hated Reagan as bad as they did Trump, nut it was a different time. Had Reagan been like Trump, we might never have needed Trump. Loved Reagan, but he didn't see that the Republicans were not a real opposition party. Like many of us he thought they were just the timid party which he vocalized by saying he believed that the Republican party was a banner of bold colors, and not one of pastel colors, though like the rest of us he really believed they were pastel colors that need to be of bold colors.

It's also about the jig is up, & so there is no reason not to keep stealing elections. But apparently, you are not too swift on the uptake.

Like Cindy McCain owns the Az. GOPe party apparatus, Nelson Rockefeller owned the national GOPe apparatus. That's why they controlled who advanced in the party. It's been a control game for several decades now, and there were real differences between the two parties. One for the elite classes, & one for the lesser classes. Now there is none for any of the classes below the elite class.

As for your last 2 paragraphs, they just prove you are a never-Trump idiot, and that you are deserving of what is barreling down the pike like bulldozer in excess of 200+ mph speed incapable of stopping on its own.

Trump was so ineffectual that he produced a nation that had achieved energy independence & was attempting to return this nation being owned & accountable to the people of this nation. He received at least 74,223,975 million votes the most votes by any president running for reelection, only to be eclipsed by Joseph Robinette Biden, who had been forced to drop in 2 previous presidential bids managed to captured 81,283,501 campaigning mainly from his basement.

Trump, was a great President & I hope we can get him back in 2024.

Of course, I guess we can count you out in that effort to do so. Because you like losing, and you can't see the winners who fight for you & this nation, because you are clueless as to what is going on, even though Trump has caused the criminals who have captured control of this nation to expose themselves, which most that I know can now clearly see..

Some just can't connect the dots. Enjoy your slavery if we fail. We won't expect thanks from you if we succeed.

But if you listen, they keep saying that most of you are nothing but worthless consumers wasting precious limited resources, who soon will serve no purpose, because robots will replace much of the human population perform these days. If you are young & hardy, they might keep you around, but I wouldn't count on it.

24 posted on 09/27/2023 8:53:44 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Robert DeLong

I really think Trump is a loser and that people who make excuses for him losing are also losers.

I bet you enjoyed joining Trump and his crowd saying “lock her up” at his 2016 rallies. I thought it was good fun. I never took it seriously.

I bet you enjoyed his joke, Mexico was going to pay for the wall. I thought that too was good fun. I never took that seriously either.

Just the opposite. I thought these showed how Trump was a good showman. How he could appeal to people who normally don’t vote, add to our numbers, and actually win.

Winning means a lot to me. Actual winning. Trump said he prefers a winner. So do I.

As for the election being rigged, the election is always rigged. As it was put in Hunger Games, the odds are never in our favor.

We have to fight outnumbered and win.

Come 2020, Trump was asleep at the wheel. He did nothing while the Democrats kept Kanye West and the Green Party candidate off the ballot. He did nothing when state after state, by executive action and/or judicial action changed the voting rules.

Then, when he was hopelessly down in polls, he tried to come from behind, 2016-style. But, in 2016, mostly coming from behind involved getting Republicans who defected to Gary Johnson to come back home. As Johnson slipped in the polls, Trump rose. Then, on election day in 2016, the Shy Trumpers pulled him across the finish line. It was one of the most dramatic elections in U.S. history.

But, there was no Gary Johnson in 2020. The polls hardly moved during the campaign. Come election day, and Trump was 7 points down in the polls. With the Shy Trumpers, he lost by 3 points narrowing the gap, and he lost by less than 1 point in the critical states of AZ, GA and WI.

He would have won those states and the election if Kanye West and the Green Party candidate were on the ballot in those states. But nobody in the Trump movement can admit to the actual reason Trump lost. They say Trump lost because the Democrats cheat when, the truth is, they always cheat.


26 posted on 09/27/2023 10:22:22 AM PDT by Redmen4ever
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