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'Last Stop USA': How the Army Is Trying to Fill in for a Broken Education System
Military.com ^ | 10/06/2023 | Steve Beynon

Posted on 10/09/2023 8:54:53 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants

Nearly every student, sitting at desks in Army uniforms at Fort Jackson, South Carolina, had a similar story. The public schools they came from were crumbling: There were holes in the walls, books held together with duct tape, few computers, not enough teachers and failing air conditioning that made paying attention in class impossible in the sweltering heat.

Test scores, which were already falling before the pandemic, took a nosedive, and recent years have seen a blitz in teacher strikes over poor working conditions and being paid wages not far above the poverty level.

For the Army to fill its ranks with aggressive recruiting quotas, it needs applicants who can meet a baseline of academic standards meant to be measured by the Armed Services Vocational Aptitude Battery, or ASVAB. A dwindling pool of young Americans can meet those enlistment requirements, forcing the Army to pick up the slack as it scrambles to get kids up to snuff.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: army; asvab; education; recruiting; wokearmy
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To: Blood of Tyrants

BS I have seen what two teachers can afford on their pay taking summers off. Worked on one house that was on a lake. It was a expensive timbers framed house with a 25 foot wide stone fireplace. The mason spent weeks laying real stone to build it.

80% of my property tax goes to schools. The other 20% funds roads fire police jails senior outreach parks animal control ECT.


21 posted on 10/09/2023 9:28:51 AM PDT by jimpick
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The ASVAB is basically an 8th grade equivalent exam. A dwindling pool of young Americans can pass that. Recruits are 18 and up. And they can’t hack 8th grade work.


22 posted on 10/09/2023 9:33:05 AM PDT by Texas resident (We are living through Barak's fundamental transformation)
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To: dfwgator

That’s exactly my point, same for China.

Our 1% is not near the norm of a Gaussian distribution.

Many Indian H-1B’s CVs are full of crap.

I also saw plenty of Asians cheating in college.
Just watch the flash drive go from laptop to laptop.


23 posted on 10/09/2023 9:33:35 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Iron Munro

Milley was on the same high school football team as Rachel Levine, at Massachusetts’ (where else?) all boys Belmont Hill School.


24 posted on 10/09/2023 9:37:57 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (If Kitty Genovese had a gun, she’d be in jail today.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Our grandparents when to one room schoolhouses with a pot belly stove providing heat in the winter and open windows for cooling when it was warmer. Their books were old and tattered because they were USED.

I went to a one room school.

often we had to rear our mittens and coats until mid day when the stove and hopefully sun warmed it up to above freezing.

It was sometimes 40 below zero in the classroom when we got there.

No running water, got electricity when I was 7.

25 posted on 10/09/2023 9:42:56 AM PDT by Mogger
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To: RowdyRoo

Yet personnel departments complain about, and reject, applicants who are educated - for being “over-qualified.”


26 posted on 10/09/2023 9:43:08 AM PDT by linMcHlp
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“Our grandparents when to one room schoolhouses with a pot belly stove providing heat in the winter and open windows for cooling when it was warmer. Their books were old and tattered because they were USED.”

My grammar school years were in one of those one-room schoolhouses. One teacher, eight grades in one room. And, yes, a wood stove for heat and open windows for cooling. Textbooks were used over and over, and many were remnants from the 1930’s. We had three sets of encyclopedias, one from the mid ‘30s, the others from WWII era. Our library consisted of maybe 40 overused books.

But WE LEARNED! We learned arithmetic, reading and writing in cursive and block. We learned basic sciences, history, literature and civics. And EVERY DAY we all said the Pledge of Allegience!

Our school was in the Ozark hills, but when we got to high school nearly all of us were at least equal intellectually, and sometimew well ahead of the city kids.


27 posted on 10/09/2023 9:47:35 AM PDT by Gideon300
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To: Blood of Tyrants
OK, Retired teacher here with 24 years combined active and reserve military service (I was in the reserves and deployed in two cases while teaching) as well as 20 years in aerospace engineering. This is my domain, this is my take on the issue:

1) The nuclear family in this country has vanished. Most of the kids are raised by a single mother or a relative. There is almost no male influence in their parenting.

2) Because of that, the kids have no self discipline. They have no sense of value other than what they learn from their peers and media. Social promotion is the rule, they cannot be told that they have failed because they actually can't comprehend what that means academically. They have high opinions of themselves based on the status in their peer system.

3) Schools are holding pens to collect government money for a 100 day student head count.

4) Teachers are the least qualified college discipline. An ED major is considered to be a last resort for a college degree.

5) Schools and teachers unions run their agenda in the classroom and that is independent of subject matter. Teachers are held accountable to meet the social criteria more that academic performance criteria. If the social criteria isn't met, administrators shamelessly pencil whip numbers until they qualify for government money.

6) Drugs are pervasive through the systems. Pot consumption is the norm. Students are blasted in class from the 4th grade and on.

28 posted on 10/09/2023 9:48:06 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: Blood of Tyrants; AnotherUnixGeek; Leaning Right; Alberta's Child; RowdyRoo
Don't expect to see much help from public schools in Oregon. Here is the letter I send annually to papers in Oregon, which is never published. Interestingly the Washington Times ran it one year.

Oregon Eliminates Educational Standards

As a new school year begins, Oregon students are no longer required to demonstrate skills in reading, writing, and math. Until 2026, an Oregon high school diploma no longer guarantees academic achievement, but only participation in a system with undefined parameters. The legislators, school districts, and the governor supporting Senate Bill 744 saw that this “will benefit Oregon’s Black, Latino, Latina, Latinx, Indigenous, Asian, Pacific Islander, Tribal, and students of color”.

The state has adopted the position held by many 19th century abolitionists. When I read Fredrick Douglass’ autobiographies, one passage always stays with me. After speaking to an abolitionist audience, Douglass considered the evening a great success, because he concluded his talk believing these people were convinced, he was equally human with them.

He mentioned this as a significant event, because many strong supporters of black freedom questioned whether these people were fully human. If educators would treat minorities as individuals, they would design programs allowing opportunities for achievement commensurate with those they see for white students.

I remember Dr. Martin Luther King saying, "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character…..little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.”

To me their understanding of brotherhood and individual value proves more meaningful than perception of white racial superiority.

29 posted on 10/09/2023 9:54:15 AM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Milley was on the same high school football team as Rachel Levine

The "Old Boy" network

The "Old Homo" network.


30 posted on 10/09/2023 9:55:46 AM PDT by Iron Munro (Sun Tzu: An evil man will burn his own nation to the ground to rule over the ashes)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Most of the schools should not be in schools. They should be working at a trade or hard labor. Most of these people are disruptive and troublesome. Maybe the students should fix the schools they destroyed.


31 posted on 10/09/2023 10:29:19 AM PDT by keving (We the government )
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To: dfwgator

1.4 billion Indians,

0.01 of that is still 14 million people.


And we get Haley...yawn.


32 posted on 10/09/2023 10:32:46 AM PDT by AFret. (.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Dumbing down the last 2 generations was all intentional. They’ve made citizenship all but pointless and trashed our education system, which along with government has been totally hijacked by the Communist left. All part of the plan.


33 posted on 10/09/2023 10:38:13 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

failing air conditioning

Grew up in Texas we didn’t have AC in the schools, and even here Oct to May its not necessary. Then again back then we actually went to school to learn to read, write and do basic math.


34 posted on 10/09/2023 10:39:42 AM PDT by Jolla
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
Here's a clue - most of the applicants I'm getting for software jobs got their primary and secondary educations in Third World schools with no computers and no air conditioning.

Undercutting the US work force. Nice. Who said slavery was dead. We just import them.

35 posted on 10/09/2023 10:43:11 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: protoconservative

How about us citizens thrive? Oh yeah you’d have to pay first world wages.


36 posted on 10/09/2023 10:44:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

...and Levine still turned out to be more of a man than Milley.


37 posted on 10/09/2023 10:46:36 AM PDT by centermass_socrates (Got to keep the loonies on the path.)
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To: central_va
Undercutting the US work force. Nice.

What US work force? In the last interview round over half of the applicants were ethnic Indian or Chinese. No one is stopping US born and raised Americans from studying CS or applying for software jobs - they just self-select themselves out, and our education system is why.

Who said slavery was dead.

These are six figure Silicon Valley developer positions, not some IT drudge job. That's not slavery, that's great jobs going begging.
38 posted on 10/09/2023 10:57:38 AM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: keving

It really started going downhill when disruptive kids were forced to stay in school in order to keep their driver license.


39 posted on 10/09/2023 12:06:47 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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To: AnotherUnixGeek
What US work force? In the last interview round over half of the applicants were ethnic Indian or Chinese (H-1B?). No one is stopping US born and raised Americans from studying CS or applying for software jobs - they just self-select themselves out, and our education system is why.

Horse sh!t. Wage suppression. End H-1B and wages will rise then Americans will do those jobs. So Mr. Manager how much do yo make per year?

Answer Yes or No, If H-1B ended would wages rise?

40 posted on 10/09/2023 7:02:13 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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