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1 posted on 10/16/2023 7:57:51 AM PDT by george76
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Colorado Ping ( Let me know if you wish to be added or removed from the list.)


2 posted on 10/16/2023 7:58:36 AM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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It's happening here.

3 posted on 10/16/2023 8:01:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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[The newest lawsuit seeks to force me to create a custom cake celebrating a gender transition]



(new version)


4 posted on 10/16/2023 8:05:04 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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It’s always planned to set the businesses up for lawsuits. Anyone can see that. Why doesn’t the CO legislature write and PASS laws going after anyone who deliberately uses businesses like this?


5 posted on 10/16/2023 8:05:58 AM PDT by Thank You Rush
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Hypothetical sitution for the courts to ponder:
Let’s say a pro-trans person or group requests that an editorialist for a major Colorado newspaper write an op-ed extolling the virtues of trans-males competing in sports against women, and lobbying for pro-tranny laws. But the editorialist opposes both the ideas and the legislation.

Can the requestor prevail in a lawsuit against the editorialist for refusing to publish opinions completely against his/her own beliefs and the positions of the newspaper or website? Jack Smith’s case as he argues it in this thread is basically same thing.

Do custom cake bakers have less constitutional rights than journalists? If so, on what basis? Could a pro-Palestinian group demand a cake decorated with beheaded babies, rockets and dead kibbutzniks?


7 posted on 10/16/2023 8:34:26 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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Colorado officials have names.


8 posted on 10/16/2023 8:45:04 AM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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I’ll be keeping Jack Phillips in my prayers, definitely.


9 posted on 10/16/2023 8:48:55 AM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as)
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So Jack Smith has already won once at SCOTUS but they limited their decision in a way that allowed continued lawfare harassment of Mr. Smith.

Since then they have smacked the Colorado law again in the Lori Smith/303 Creative case again in June. Yet the harassment of the baker continues.

If the Colorado doesn’t put and end to this lawfare with clear guidance or declaring the law void, it’s going to go to the 9th Circus and then back to SCOTUS for the 3rd time.

At which point SCOTUS might get a little testy about lower courts not taking the hints the first 2 times.

The real goal of course is to bankrupt dissenters from Wokery. This is why it so important to donate to outfits like Alliance Defending Freedom and Pacific Legal Foundation, who are doing the heavy lifting on this lawfare.


10 posted on 10/16/2023 8:58:19 AM PDT by Valpal1 (Not even the police are safe from the police!!!)
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The homely Autumn Scardina can be found at ScardinaLaw.com, should anyone want to compel him to take on a case that protects or defends a conservative cause.


11 posted on 10/16/2023 9:11:18 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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Thank you for referencing that article george76.

"GUEST COLUMN: What the state can do to me — it can do to you . ( Jack Phillips - Masterpiece Cakeshop )"


Regarding Mr. Philips being oppressed under the boots of an activist state government, please consider the following.

The main problem with this unconstitutional state abridgment of constitutionally enumerated protections is not only a state power problem, but on a larger scale also a federal problem imo.

More specifically, the corrupt, constitutionally undefined political parties that have pirated control of Congress are unsurprisingly not doing their sworn, constitutionally enumerated duty to exercise 14th Amendment (14A) powers to make laws that discourage misguided, activist states like Colorado from abridging constitutionally enumerated protections.

Excerpted from 14A:

In fact, in the absence of federal protection laws, or unenforced federal laws, laws intended to protect people like Mr. Phillips from anti-Christian activist states in this example, Congress is wrongly looking the other way, effectively throwing Mr. Phelps to a line of activist shark judges, letting these judges get away with wrongly legislating anti-Christian laws from the bench imo.

On the other hand, consider that 14A has actually been successfully used relatively recently in California to protect citizens' 1st Amendment protections.

UC Berkeley settles landmark free speech lawsuit, will pay $70,000 to conservative group (12.4.18)

So 14A isn't dead yet.

But I wouldn't be surprised if California taxpayers ultimately paid the settlement, effectively nullifying the intentions of the drafters of 14A if so imo.

And while some Christian denominations seemingly wash their hands of government authority because it is "evil," 14A protections in this example, note that Acts 22:23-29 shows that the Holy Spirit led Apostle Paul to claim his Roman citizenship to get out of a flogging.

The bottom line is this. Both Democratic and Republican Trump supporters need to primary ALL of their beloved incumbent state and federal lawmakers and executives up for reelection in 2024, except for MTG, Gaetz & Company, Jordan (and others?), not only to support hopeful Trump 47 with new state and federal lawmakers that support his pro-Constitution agenda, but also to make and enforce 14A-based laws that protect people like Mr. Phillips.

After all, evidenced by the legal system being weaponized against Christians like Mr. Phillips, lawmakers and executives continue to show that they do not have the patriotism and leadership skills necessary to find legislative support for effective remedies for unconstitutional government policies.

13 posted on 10/16/2023 10:18:44 AM PDT by Amendment10
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I have done Accounting & bookkeeping for over 66 years.

WOULD the state of COLORADO demand that I perform bookkeeping services for an embezzler? Any other kind of Criminal? Drug cartel???

I have dropped a couple of clients in a short time because I wasn’t comfortable with their actions & answers to my questions.. One guy was only a week.


14 posted on 10/16/2023 10:18:46 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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Make that “...it will do to you.”


17 posted on 10/16/2023 10:27:17 AM PDT by DPMD (ua)
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You may want to create a “designer club” or some other kind of special customer category. Limit designer service to those customers that pay the fee ($1 ???) to join the club, make a condition of the club membership that the designs provided by your business must be mutually agreed to. Specification and limitations in the club membership agreement.

If a customer wants a design that you agree to, fine.
If a customer wants a design that you dont agree to, you have the membership form to show that they AGREED that the design had to be MUTUALLY agreed to.

Might not stop the harassment but should make it easier for the lawsuit to be tossed out.


19 posted on 10/16/2023 12:14:09 PM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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bump


21 posted on 10/16/2023 2:45:17 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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Courts have ruled on Jack’s issue already, none other than the Supreme Court. This is just one more example of Leftists/Democrats ignoring court rulings with impunity while holding conservatives strictly to rulings in the leftists’ favor.


22 posted on 10/18/2023 9:37:49 AM PDT by fwdude (.)
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