Seventh Circuit Overturns Injunction Against Illinois "Assault Weapons Ban", Says AR-15s Aren't Protected Arms

Bearing Arms ^ | 11/3/23 | Cam Edwards

[Scrambler Bob]

“...because they’re too close to machine guns...
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Too close in what? The dictionary? The gun safe?

Oh, ‘15’ and ‘16’ are very close.

[wildcard_redneck]

There really is no constitutional restriction on weapons based on common use because from the Revolutionary War through the Civil War the US government often gave letters of Mark to private captains sailing private ships that were armed with canon and any other type of weapon they could afford and fit into their ships.

The Seventh Circuit Court is going to get its backside kicked by the Supreme Court.

[PROCON]

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[Yo-Yo]

There was a time in the 80s when I signed out a S&W revolver to carry with me when flying in bad places. So...revolvers are “military weapons” too! Ban them!

When I was briefly in the Air Force from 1977-81, the Security Police carried S&W Model 15 .38 special revolvers as their duty sidearm.

Even fully automatic rifles and submachine guns are protected arms, and the 1934 Congress knew that when they passed the NFA and didn't try to ban ownership, but simply put a $200 tax on them.

[steve86]

What a jacked-up deal.

[FreedomPoster]

On that last, I’d argue it is about both, and protecting from government tyranny.

[FreedomPoster]

That’s a classic right there!

[FreedomPoster]

Regarding the last line of the 1st para:

[FreedomPoster]

I have a titanium spork. I suppose it could be banned, and I could be limited to a plastic spoon only. We’re that far down the rabbit hole, I don’t see it as a impossible.

[Boomer]

Rafal was a wise man.

[Brown Deer]

Just because it looks like something the military carries doesn’t make it a bad weapon… you can still have something that looks like that but is a single fire. I can go in with a single fire weapon and I can kill just as many people or if I get twenty people cornered in a school room I can hack them up with a machete until all twenty are dead. And in regard to addressing your question about how easy it is to get your hands on a bomb… go on line and you’ll learn how easy it is to make one. So we go back to this thing: that’s not the issue. The issue isn’t the instrument: we have to address why so many people want to kill people, now. If we can’t ever address that issue about what we are going to do, you can’t take the freedom away from innocent people to have the right to defend themselves, because in our country (and a lot of countries) the police can never get there in time. The police are reactive, they are not proactive, and so I have a right, no matter where I am in my country, to protect myself and my family. People will say, ‘Well, you’re only going to get attacked in your home.’ That’s not true. I may be on the road with my family and someone tries to do something to me there. In America this issue of gun control revolves around something much bigger, which is political. A government – and a tyrant government – knows that if you can take guns away from people then you can bring military forces in at anytime and that is the one thing our forefathers knew a long time ago. As long as the average person has the right to defend themselves, governmental organised armies have to think twice before they come in to take over a country. ~~ Bazzel Baz, May 13, 2018

[I got the rope]

How many times does SCOTUS have to take these cases and over rule them. These judges need to be impeached.

[ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas]

1 is “close to” 2, so if I have 2 cars the govt can take one of them. Where did this “close to” argument come from?

[trebb]

Yep - Gonna have to go to SCOTUS - else, ALL semi autos will be open to banning - whether a .22 lr or any semi-auto handgun....because they’re “too close to being machine guns....”

[Vaduz]

Great answer just the facts

[itsahoot]

Remember Scalia said “reasonable gun law were ok” don’t be too anxious for them to get serious. Besides so far how many times they have knocked down New York it is still illegal to carry a weapon anywhere.