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A COVID-19 vaccine reckoning is coming for the DOJ over federal mandates
New York Post ^ | November 12, 2023 | Miranda Devine

Posted on 11/13/2023 8:40:46 AM PST by chickenlips

The Justice Department has just posted a new jobs ad — it’s looking for eight new attorneys to defend the federal government in vaccine injury cases.

Presumably, the hiring spree is in anticipation of a surge of COVID vaccine lawsuits, as people who were forced by government mandates to take the jab, and suffered serious side effects as a result, try to extract compensation from a system that is stacked against them.

“The office is currently expanding to address workload created by an increase in cases filed under the Vaccine Act,” reads the ad posted by the Torts Branch of the DOJ on the USAJobs website.

The recruitment drive comes on the heels of a little-noticed lawsuit filed in Louisiana last month by six vaccine-injured plaintiffs against the federal government.

The suit aims to overturn the legal immunity that pharmaceutical giants like Pfizer and Moderna enjoy on their COVID shots.

Not that any of the lawyers involved expect Big Pharma to pay up, but at least if they win, it should force Congress to reform inadequate vaccine injury compensation schemes that were instituted almost 40 years ago as an alternative to suing drug companies out of existence but that have not kept up with the times.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: covid; injuries; pharma; vaccines
Of course pharma won't have to pay, the taxpayer will pay for everything.

Maybe there's some CARES cash lying around? No wait, that was used to fund election fraud and extending the lockdowns. More winning ya'll.

1 posted on 11/13/2023 8:40:46 AM PST by chickenlips
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To: chickenlips
"The recruitment drive comes on the heels of a little-noticed assiduously ignored by the mockingbird media lawsuit filed in Louisiana last month by six vaccine-injured plaintiffs against the federal government."

Fixed it

2 posted on 11/13/2023 8:46:04 AM PST by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: chickenlips

Well, all the FReepers who posted two years ago predicting there would eventually be advertising by law firms requesting anyone who was injured by the Covid vaccine to call an 1-800 number, appear to be very close to seeing this.

I’m sure people thought they were conspiracy theorists too.


3 posted on 11/13/2023 8:48:45 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: chickenlips
USC Professor Dr. Phillip Buckhaults Expert witness against the government
Bad vaccines can cause cancer issues.
4 posted on 11/13/2023 9:00:49 AM PST by DEPcom (DC is not my Capitol after Jan 6th lock downs.)
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To: chickenlips

Canadian, Dr. Mikolaj Raszek, gives updates on the low down on the vax and protein spikes. He’s one of the good guys.

https://www.youtube.com/@Merogenomics/videos


5 posted on 11/13/2023 9:01:41 AM PST by bgill
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To: chickenlips

Why do they need attorneys?

As long as Deep State controls the courts, lawsuits won’t go anywhere.

The PREP Act, and possibly the CARES Act, provide immunity for both Big Pharma and Big Med.

Bet these hires aren’t really for vaxx injury cases...


6 posted on 11/13/2023 9:05:51 AM PST by mewzilla (Never give up; surrender!)
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To: chickenlips

BTW, did all the documents available from Pfizer of the genetic treatment inoculations testing get delivered to the court for release to the public? This order was put in place when Pfizer tried to sequester the test results for 75 years, which the court wisely denied.


7 posted on 11/13/2023 9:31:24 AM PST by RideForever (Damn, another dangling par .....)
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To: mewzilla
The PREP Act, and possibly the CARES Act, provide immunity for both Big Pharma and Big Med.

Fraud vitiates everything.

8 posted on 11/13/2023 9:45:34 AM PST by T.B. Yoits
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To: chickenlips

Related article:

https://nypost.com/2023/11/11/metro/nypds-bomb-squad-sue-nyc-for-75-over-covid-vaccine-mandate/

“NYPD Bomb Squad members sue NYC for $75M, claim COVID vax mandate ended careers”


9 posted on 11/13/2023 4:02:11 PM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: DEPcom; exDemMom; Jane Long; ransomnote; bitt; fireman15; george76; SeekAndFind

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEWHhrHiiTY

A PhD cancer immunologist from the University of South Carolina, testimony before Congress.

Hey Dingbat!
The key points are
The trials used jabs prepared by a different method than the jabs that everyone got in the general public
For the jabs that everyone got, they had remnants stored in a freezer, of actual shots that had been given to the public.
Sampling those found many many fragments of plasmid DNA left over from manufacturing.
(Malfeasance, or piss-poor quality control?)
Most of the fragment lengths were 100 nucleotides long; there were a few up to 5000 long.
And the more DnA in the shots (inside the lipid nano particles), the more get into your cells.
The more get into your cells, the greater the chance for random pieces to be inserted into the DNA.
The more random insertions going willy-nilly into your DNA, the greater the risk for cancer down the road.

Dingbat cries: “But SAFE AND EFFECTIVE BECAUSE SCIENCE™!” Also everyone knows South Carolina isn’t a very good school, so no peer review in NEJO (Never Ending Jack Off), so it MUST BE FEAR MONGERING !!!”

Here’s the transcript:

so a little bit of what am I doing here for those of you
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don’t don’t know me um my name is Philip baltz I’m a uh I have a PhD in
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Biochemistry and molecular biology uh I’m a I’m a cancer Gene jock uh basically I do cancer genomics research
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at the University of South Carolina and what that means is that I’m kind of an expert on all the ways that the human
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genome can get fussed with during your lifetime and which of those things cause cancer and which one don’t okay um so
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technically that means that I’m very very skilled in in the art of DNA sequencing okay I can figure out the
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sequence of things that I didn’t know what I was looking for um and I’m also pretty good when I say I I mean the
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people in my laboratory that you’re not going to hear their names but there’s a group of people that do this excellent work um we’re really good at at um
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detecting foreign pieces of DNA in places where they’re not supposed to be even if they’re real low levels and we
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used those skills during the pandemic um to we invented the coid test that many
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of you did a spit test okay that came out of my lab because we were really good at that kind of stuff and so I’ve
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earned a fair amount of respect um in the state of South Carolina and in this
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body because we did a ton of coid testing in the middle of the night when people were afraid and we told them no
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you don’t have coid in your home or yes you do so my qualif ation to comment on
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this are both Technical and kind of relational in the state of South Carolina
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um I’ll cut to a very narrow theme here but it does touch on lots of these
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regulatory issues and I’ll leave it to you to expand on those if you want to
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I’ll try to stay in this Narrow Lane um of some problems in the fizer vaccine um
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as a case study for place in which regulatory oversight could be improved all right
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so first of all let me say that my interpretation of the literature is that
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the fizer vaccine did a pretty good job of keeping people from dying but it did a terrible job of stopping the pandemic
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the early Publications showed that um it stopped infection but that only lasted
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for like a month Dr B could you pull the mic a little closer to you um staff’s telling me they having trouble getting
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you on the recording okay okay thank you um in in my professional evaluation of
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the literature the fiser vaccine did a pretty good job of keeping people out of the cemetery but it sucked at stopping
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the pandemic and um it was the best of sucky options that we had and I still
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believe that um it was deployed mostly in good faith but there
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were a lot of shortcuts taken because the house was on fire and uh we could do a better job next time time from the
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lessons that we’re going to learn here that’s my own personal view of this uh but I’m also my philosophical bent here
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is I’m sure many of you have heard of a aam’s Razer right choose the simplest of explanations well there’s another one
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called hanlon’s Razer which is never attribute malice to that which can be better explained by incompetence and so
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I’m trying to be gracious here in many in circumstances there could be malice underneath but I’m trying to see just
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incompetence to be gracious so the fizer uh vaccine is contaminated with plasma
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DNA it’s not just mRNA it’s got bits of DNA in it this DNA is the DNA Vector
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that was used um as the template for the invitro transcription reaction when they made the
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MRNA um I know this is true because I sequenced it in my own lab the vials of
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fiser vaccine that were given out here in Colombia uh one of my colleagues was in charge of that vaccination program in
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the College of Pharmacy and for reasons that I still don’t understand he kept every single vial um so he had a whole
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freezer full of the empty vials well the empty vials have a little tiny bit in the bottom of them he gave them all to me and I looked at them we had two
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batches that were given out here in Colombia and I checked these two batches and I checked them by
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sequencing and I sequenced all the DNA that was in the vaccine and I can see what’s in there and it’s surprising that
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there’s any DNA in there and you can kind of work out what it is and how it got there and I’m kind of alarmed about
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the possible consequences of this both in terms of human health and biology but
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you should be alarmed about the regulatory process that allowed it to get there so this DNA in my
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view it could be causing some of the rare but serious side effects like death
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from Cardiac Arrest there’s a lot of cases now um of people having suspicious
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death after vaccine it’s hard to prove what caused it it’s just you know temporally Associated um and this DNA is
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a plausible mechanism okay uh this DNA
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uh can and likely will integrate into the genomic DNA of cells that got
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transfected with the vaccine mix this is just the way it works we do this in the lab all the time we take pieces of DNA
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we mix them up with a A lipid complex like the fizer uh vaccine is in we pour it onto cells and and a lot of it gets
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into the cells and a lot of it gets into the DNA of those cells and it becomes a permanent fixture of the cell it’s not
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just a temporary um a temporary thing it is in that cell and all of its progyny
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from now on forever more amen so that’s why I’m kind of alarmed
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about this DNA being in the vaccine it’s it’s it’s different from RNA because it
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can be permanent this is a real Hazard for genome modification of Long Live sematic
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cells like stem cells um and it could cause theoretically this is all a
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theoretical concern but it’s pretty reasonable based on solid molecular biology that it could cause a sustained
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autoimmune tact toward that tissue it’s also a very real theoretical risk of future cancer in some people depending
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on where in the genome this foreign piece of DNA lands um it can interrupt a
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tumor suppressor or activate an enogen I think it’ll be rare but I think the risk is not zero and it may be high enough
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that we are to figure out if this is happening or not and then again the the the autoimmunity
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thing is not my wheelhouse I’m not an immunologist but the cancer risk is that’s my bag I know this is a thing and
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it is a possibility okay A little nerdy science
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here the central dogma of molecular biology is that DNA gets transcribed into RNA okay and then RNA gets
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translated into protein this is just how life runs why why does this matter well DNA
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for the purposes of this discussion DNA is a longlived information storage
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device okay what you were born with you’re going to die with and pass on to your kids DNA lasts for hundreds of
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thousands of years um and it can last for Generations if you and get pass it on to your kids right so alterations to
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the DNA they stick around RNA by its nature is temporary it doesn’t last and that
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feature of RNA was part of the sales pitch for the vaccine the pseudo iDine
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was supposed to make the RNA last a little bit longer but still it’s a transient phenomenon we’re talking hours
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to days okay um and then proteins once proteins are made they also don’t last
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forever they they last for hours to days but something that makes its way into DNA has the potential to last for a very
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long time maybe a lifetime so this is a picture of the
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sequencing read that uh the sequencing run that I did uh in the lab um from a
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couple of batches of the fiser vaccine and all those little bitty lines here are the little tiny pieces of DNA that are in the vaccine they don’t belong
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there they are not part of the sales pitch or the marketing campaign and they’re there there’s a lot of them this
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little graph here in the middle is the size distribution it Peaks around 100 base pairs 120 base pairs so the the DNA
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pieces that are in the vaccine are short little pieces 100 120 there’s some that
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are about 500 base pairs a few that are even 5,000 but most of them are around 100 base
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pairs um why is this important because the probability of a
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DNA piece of DNA integrating into the human genome is unrelated to its size so
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your genome risk is just a function of how many particles there are so it’s like you know if you shoot a shotgun at
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a washboard if you shoot a slug you have some probability of hitting it and if shoot Buckshot you have a bigger
9:02
probability of hitting it with some shot right this all these little pieces of DNA that are in the vaccine are
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analogous to Buckshot um you have many many thousands of opportunities to
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modify uh a uh cell of a vaccinated person um the
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pieces are very small because during the process they chopped them up to try to make them go away but they actually
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increased the hazard of genome modification in the process that’s how this got
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here um in my view uh somebody should go
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about sequencing DNA samples from stem cells of people who are vaccinated and find
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out if this theoretical risk has happened or not I
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think this is a real serious oversight regulatory oversight that happened at the federal level and somebody should
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force this to happen somewhere Dr B if you now are you capable of doing that
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yeah it’s we do that kind of thing but in order for it to be trustworthy it by the public this has to be done by lots
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of people right okay um I’ll talk to you more about that later yeah this is our our deal this is why I know this should
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have been done at the federal level okay um so we took all these pieces of
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DNA and we used them to glue together what the source DNA must have been this
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is kind of again this is our what we do in the lab all the time and and all these little little red and green lines
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here these are all independent little pieces of DNA um this must have had 100,000 pieces of DNA in this this
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sequencing run and you can put them all back together and see what they came from is this circle over here it’s a
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plasmid that you can go shopping online to buy from agilant and it’s clear that
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fiser uh took this plasmid and then they Clon Spike into it um and
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they used it for in a process called invitro transcription translation inv vitro transcription where you
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feed an RNA polymerase this plasmid and it makes a whole bunch of mRNA copies for you okay and then you take this mRNA
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you mix it with the the lipid nanoparticle transection reagent and now you’ve got your mRNA vaccine but they
11:19
failed to get the DNA out before they did this so these little pieces they did they did make some effort to chop it up
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so all these little pieces of the plasma got packaged in with the RNA that’s clear as day what happened just from the
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forensics of looking at the DNA sequencing okay A little bit of a regulatory note here
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um the way you do RNA transcription in vitro transcription reactions you have
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to give it a DNA template okay and you can give it a DNA template that is just
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a synthetic piece of DNA that is only the instructions to make the RNA and that’s what was done for getting
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the um emergency use authorization and the clinical trial it’s called process one if you look up that kind of stuff um
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they made a PCR product of just the bits that they wanted and then they did the invitro transcription made a bunch of
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RNA of that there was no plasma DNA to contaminate the stuff that was used for
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the trial but that that making that PCR product doesn’t scale the way that was
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necessary to vaccinate the whole world so a cheaper way to scale up the production of this template is to clone
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that PCR product into this plasma Vector put the plasma Vector into bacteria and then you grow up big Vats of the
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bacteria they make a lot of the plasma DNA for you then you use that plasma DNA as the template to drive this
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transcription reaction to make your RNA um and that’s where how the
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contamination ended up in the production batches even though it was not in the stuff that was used for the
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authorization trials so I know it’s a little bit of nerdy science but it has
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regulatory implications for for you
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guys um we can we can measure the quantity of this stuff pretty easy in the lab this
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is we’re we’re good at doing this kind of stuff this is the same we made a little PC a colleague of mine at at MIT
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made you know from who who used to work for the the broad Institute at MIT he he
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made a little uh PCR test and we cloned here this is similar to the PCR test
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that you all took for the spit test okay same same idea and same expertise behind it and we can quantify exactly how much
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of this stuff is in a vaccine or any other tissue and you know I estimate that there were
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about two billion copies of the one piece that we’re looking for in every
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dose and if you looked back at that map I showed you where it’s all these little
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the the little piece that we’re looking for is just that little bit right there okay but if you see 2 billion copies of
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this there’s about 200 billion of everything else so what this means is
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that there’s probably about 200 billion pieces of this plasma
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DNA in in each dose of the vaccine and it’s encapsulated in this
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lipid nanop particle so it’s ready to be delivered inside the cell okay this is a bad
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idea my conclusions from this um we should check a bunch of people
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ah my conclusions from this are I should learn how to run PowerPoint um we should check a bunch of
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vaccinated people getting tissue samples especially if we focus on harmed
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people but that’s not necessary we could also just focus on regular unharmed people people and see if this plasma DNA
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is integrating into the genomes of any of their stem cells it leaves a calling card that is there one of the reasons
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why I’m focusing on this is because it’s kind of different from a lot of the other imagined harms where
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you can’t really prove it you can be suspicious because of the timing but you can’t really prove it this one you can
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prove it because it leaves a calling card okay um you find it in the stem cells of
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harmed people it’s equivalent to finding a certain type of lid in someone who is now dead
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it’s pretty reasonable to assume that that’s what caused it uh the Royal we meaning you guys
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should insist that the FDA Force fizer to get the DNA out of the
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booster and all future versions of this vaccine I’m a real fan of this platform
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okay I think it has the potential to treat cancers I really
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believe that this platform is revolutionary and in your lifetime there
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will be mRNA vaccines against antigens in your unique cancer okay and but they
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got to get this problem fixed okay and I and I right now I think the financial incentives are too great to just keep on
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rolling with it and it’s going to take some encouragement to get it
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out the regulation that allowed this DNA to there in the first place I don’t think that this the amounts there
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actually exceed the regulation limits in some batches it may in in the
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two batches that I looked at one of them it was just under the limit and one it was just over the limit my colleague in
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Boston has looked at a fair number of other batches and there’s a handful that are super high and there’s a handful
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that are super low but the fact that there is a regulatory threshold for
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amount of DNA allowed in a vaccine is a throwback to an Era when we
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were talking about vaccines that were like a recombinant protein that you or a dead virus you know attenuated virus
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produced in in ch cells or something like that and the DNA that might be in it is naked DNA and you might have a
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little bit in the vaccine that’s not a problem because naked DNA gets chewed up
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immediately upon vaccination and there’s no real mechanism for it to get inside to cells they inappropriately applied
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that regulatory limit to this new kind of seene where everything is encapsulated in this lipid nanoparticle
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it’s basically packaged in a synthetic virus able to dump its contents into a cell so I’m thinking handlon razor here
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okay I don’t think there was anything nefarious here I think it was just kind of a dumb oversight and it’s going to
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take because the financial incentives are so great to just you know sweep it under the rug and the career incentives
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of people that approved this are going to be there’s nothing wrong here you know it’s going to take some encouragement to make people prove that
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it’s okay but I really believe this was an inappropriate application of an old
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school regulation to a new kind of vaccine and who knows maybe we’ll check a bunch of people and we’ll find out for
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sure that this is indeed not a problem and that will do the public good if we prove that Mr
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chairman Senator
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cash Dr we uh appreciate all that you’re saying
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although we don’t understand most of what you’re saying sorry I have a limited amount of time someone down
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there agreeing a lot so you must have been a chemistry major or something but
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um what what is going to help us is to know what what you can do like checking
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a bunch of vaccinated people of course that’s what I can do right but we are
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are not going to have any authority over the FDA to force fizer to do something I
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mean that’s a federal issue uh yes unless you can explain to me how we
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could do something at a state level you know some of this is going to have to be taken up by our Congressman right so
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just and whatever your remaining comments are just keep in mind that I understand what what we can do and and
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really these technical things you’re throwing out us as as a senator from Green has already mentioned we’re going to throw right back at you because
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there’s no you’re the expert so if someone’s going to do this testing uh I don’t know who we would
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find to do it well other than someone like you I can do it lots of other people can do it um I’ve had a lot of of
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um so coroners and pharmacists from different states contact me I posted all
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this on Twitter right and so people will private message me and say I’d like to send you some samples and then they say
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oops State leg regulation will not allow our coroner to send any samples for this so there are some policy
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issues that can allow this to happen or impede it I don’t know what they are but
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I hear that there are mechanisms in place that will you know you can
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encourage people to do things or not do things but that’s your wheelhouse not mine all I can tell you is what I found
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in the lab and the scientific implications of it the policy implic and what to do it is out of my it’s above my
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pay grade Senator Garrett thank you for coming today um I think I followed most
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of what you said President Biden said the other day that there was a new coid vaccine that and this one really
20:44
works um there’s no evidence to that as far as I can tell I I understand that and that’s why I’m asking this question
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is there some way you could get a hold of one of those and do the do the same study that you did on these vials to
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make sure that we’re not using that that DNA protein or whatever it is the DNA that
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that that we don’t need in to be injected into these uh to our constituents I would like to do that and
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I will not get it unless I get a batch and and find out that it’s free of DNA and then I’ll take it myself but I don’t
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I don’t have any way of compelling that to happen so it was just basically a way to save money by by doing it in such
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volume that way without then taking it back out later on
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I think nobody thought about it I I think it was reasonable to use the eoli to blow up the plasma to make the stuff
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and then the the pieces of the DNA are of a very uniform and small size that’s
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evidence that they took efforts to try to chop it up and then they knew about it yeah yeah
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they knew it and they took efforts to chop it up they just didn’t get it all out but but having said that I guess
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that they just didn’t didn’t think about the the hazard for genome modification cuz it’s not all that expensive to add
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another process to get it out well that’s what I’m saying it it you know I can’t get inside their
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mind rushed too much and that’s why I’m saying these subsequent you know we’ve heard testimony these subsequent you
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know variant subsequent boosters etc etc are leading to maybe not scientific yet
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but at least collateral knowledge that it apparently these things are causing death and disability later on and also
22:31
the aging process which you heard about a few minut there’s a lot of suspicious associations but I but it seems to me
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that that before we can in South Carolina you know give this new vaccine
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a world around here seems to me that that our people ought to be able to look at that Mr chairman and see whether or
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not it’s got this DNA and if it does fine tell everybody that’s got the DNA and the and the problems associated
22:56
there with then you got informed consent correct okay but without that we don’t haveed I’m not I’m not really happy
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about that Mr chairman and do what I can to try to help knowing what I otherwise
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knowing what I know now about this I would still have recommended it to my elderly parents okay but I probably
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would not have given it to my daughters okay and I I feel like my consent was not as informed as it should have been
23:23
thank you yeah represent Morgan I almost don’t know where to start I’m I’m trying
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not to talk because we’re it’s a hearing and we want to hear you but you have made so many questions come to my mind
23:36
um and one I should know but I don’t remember what percentage of vaccinated people had this kind of vaccination do
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you know off the top of your head like the majority of people that took the vaccine have this type because weren’t there multiple types of vaccinations you
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could take the vast majority of people got either fiser or Mna and and we’re talking about the F I’m talking about
23:54
fizer my colleagues have looked at madna and it’s in madna 2o in the few that we’ve looked at it’s just not quite as
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high okay wow um with so you were here today and you’ve come to present and you
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notice this where could you have gone if we didn’t have this kind of ad hoc hearing for this to come Twitter so
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there’s no deck there’s no way for you even at your level of expertise to say
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hey red flag I I email I emailed the FDA and I tweeted at them that’s about the
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extent of my resources it’s just fascinating to me that in a in the state that we don’t have some kind
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of um I guess it goes to kind of the entire thing that we’re talking about is that our state agency should have more
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focus on our citizens health and you know great CDC can send us stuff but we’ll make the decision and and there
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should be a way for especially at your level to get input to dhack when you
24:52
notice something like this immediately and say hey deck you should consider this and then they can come and tell us
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immediately hey we need to get authorization you need to change this regulation to look into this and it just seems like we’
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totally dropped the ball in every direction with the state prioritizing um
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you know our decision- making on this kind of stuff and and investigating into it just letting the you know the federal
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government take it and do a terrible job so I had a lot of experience with DC rolling out the saliva test okay so we
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invented the saliva test and then we had to deal with DEC to try to get it rolled out for the state and it appear appear
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to me that they were just overrun they weren’t prepared for what
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this pandemic was through there’s no fault of theirs I thought I I told people at the time that I felt like
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these were Hobbits in the Shire that were you know accustomed to take care of small problems and now of a sudden we’re
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in the war of the ring and there are Orcs at the gate and we’re expecting them to deal with this tremendous
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Challenge and that’s not who we put there and that’s not their fault I mean
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it’s just we were not prepared to handle something of this magnitude so some amount of Grace I think is appropriate
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even though we could do better next time by beefing up who’s guarding the gates if you if you had a tomorrow fixes to
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the system what would they be that we could I mean since you lived it and and
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saw based on the research should we have somebody actually checking up especially on something that is being pushed
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Statewide I mean State resources are being used saying to take this vaccine to hire people that are qualified to
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tell the feds no and that’s not what we do here usually in South Carolina we hire people
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sometimes we say to the no to the feds just to be ordinary because that’s our culture in South Carolina but many times
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we say well I don’t know what do other people do and we hire people all over that they ask well what does Clemson do
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what does USC well what do they do over in this other state instead of putting people in place that we would have
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confidence in saying no to the to whatever the recommendations were we put
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people in that we often encourage them to not make too many waves and just go
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ask the feds what they’re doing and that’s not their fault that’s the culture that we cultivated so I know that South Carolina
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culture is no no no we’re going to do our own thing but in reality in terms of actually doing stuff almost always we
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people will say well what do they do else in another state or what are they doing at the FED level and I’ll just go
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along with it would it be and I’m not a medical professional by any stretch would it be realistic for anything that
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is being promoted especially on a large scale a vaccination that’s you know coming from who knows where to have it
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be investigated by people in our state such as yourself or is that would that be too it it was reasonable to trust the
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FDA even though I have my doubts about their independence now
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everybody just trusted the feds to do this and at the time that was kind of
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reasonable but going forward I get that’s my question going forward is it is it possible is it reasonable for us
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to be able to have a system where we could especially if it’s being if the taxpayer money is going to be used to
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push it and tell people to get it that we have it set up that it’s automatically tested basically or looked
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into by scientists and medical professionals in our state to determine maybe it’s in DEC maybe DEC has that
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where they are required to look into it and have their own um you know summary
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or decision on whether or not it’s safe and effective since we know that CDC and uh FDA and all these are not doing a
28:37
good job with it and I and I guess I’m asking you as a professional are do you hear that and think wow that’s going to cost an insane amount of money and good
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luck or like no that’s reasonable no no the the actual like scientific experiments are I don’t think an insane
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amount of money it’s having the the Regulatory and and Financial
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Independence to like say no we’re not going to do it the way we’re told until we find out that it’s okay when in
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reality much of our support comes from federal sources it’s like if you have a
29:10
better idea for how to build the interstate you kind of have to do what the the federal people tell you
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regardless right we because that’s where the money comes from for a lot of the in Interstate infrastructure and I think
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I’m not a policy expert but I I think that a lot of financial support through
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the Health Care system and and elsewhere was tied to compliance to the federal
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narratives and so I don’t know that you can create true Independence you you could maybe create
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some kind of oversite that would enhance the public trust in whether it was a good idea or
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not but that’s a different matter from us being able to go our own way all the time but that’s your that’s your leader
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that’s your area of expertise it’s not mine yeah but it is but it is possible to have somebody look into vaccinations
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and do similarly to what you did on this I did this on my own money with free student I mean yeah we this is not
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terribly expensive to do these kinds of tests but you know that has to be in a
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system that that professors are not going to be penalized for producing results that are counter to what the
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party line is supposed to be and that you can create bubbles of
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where the protection for people whose job it is to check things and if they come up with answers that nobody likes
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they can still say them and and you have to create these kind of protection
30:39
bubbles chairman yes ask him just a few more questions
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okay doctor if you are you planning to publish these findings have you tried to
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publish these findings in a journal no and no they’re
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not as of now they are interesting and concerning but not they don’t rise to
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the level of a peer-reviewed publication the most likely the best
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possible outcome would be that I would check a bunch of people find out it never integrated and this is not a
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problem and then it will never be published because papers don’t publish negative results kind of the worst
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outcome is I can check a bunch of people and I find ow it integrated and it’s
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called these horrible things and yeah then I’ll get a paper and be famous um but I’m hoping that that’s not
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the way it goes so you see how they’re in Academia for publication there are all these perverse incentives in place
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where the kind of thing you need to be done is is the kind of thing that does not
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generate a publication you need a regulatory body to check find no problem and tell the public there’s no problem
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we checked and there ain’t nothing there that will never get published you know or very sell it’s it’s hard to publish
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negative results like that and that’s why academic science is not the best place to do
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it how long would it take to do what it is you’re talking about here about check
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a bunch of vaccinated people I mean I it’s it’s hard for me listening to all
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this for the first time to to uh calculate how alarmed you are and
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whether in your personal opinion you would hit the pause button on allowing this new vaccine so to speak without
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knowing more how long’s it take and and how
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serious is it to to find out this information before people keep taking these
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vaccines it it takes about 3 hours to
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check a vial a vaccine to see if it’s got this in it about a hundred bucks of
32:53
reagents and I’m not going to get it unless I find a a vial that I can check
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ahead of time and make sure it’s not there and if it is there I’ll take a pass on
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it thank you doc Dr bof thank you so much for being here and I would like to
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say that um I would sort of in the world of coid that we’ve been dealing with with all the lies and coverups and
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misinformation out there I would almost call you a whistleblower um and Dr lead I think we
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may have found our state’s Surgeon General here no that’s not my thank thank you for
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your confidence in me but that’s be would like to say is as we wrap it up is I do appreciate you um I understand um
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where you are employed and um you and I have had a little conversation about how wonderful
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tenure is and things like that but if you experience any retribution or any
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harassment for coming forward at this hearing and testifying would you please let us know because I
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can assure you you will have an army behind you to help with whatever may come your way thank you very
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much rep Morgan has one more question and we’ve got to move along Dr jansy is
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I think under a time constraint I should have asked this so you didn’t uh have you haven’t interacted with DEC about
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this specific okay I was just wondering if you had any I interacted with some a couple of people at the FDA I just sent
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them emails and said hey you want you should look in this okay okay thank you so much um next is Dr jansy Lindsay


10 posted on 11/19/2023 10:41:54 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Eh, cancer geneticist, not immunologist.


11 posted on 11/19/2023 11:15:57 PM PST by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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