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The weak-willed West is conspiring to sell out Ukraine
The Telegraph via Yahoo ^ | November 16th, 2023 | Con Coughlin

Posted on 11/16/2023 5:31:22 PM PST by Mariner

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To: Mariner; Deaf Smith

Telegraph would be paywalled.

This way we can see the article. (although I post w/o reading, in the best traditions of FR)


21 posted on 11/16/2023 5:50:02 PM PST by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

Neocons are Leftists pretending to be Conservative to hijack Conservatism.

David Cameron the British Foreign Minister former Prime Minister a sort of example

Peter Hitchens offers this notion regarding Cameron being a social-cultural moral Leftist in a Conservative coating..

https://twitter.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1724357127026741532


22 posted on 11/16/2023 5:50:15 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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To: Mariner
The West did promise to protect Ukraine if it gave up its nuclear weapons. Israel , on the other hand , developed plenty of their own , which is why I believe the Islamic nations have not joined in the war.
23 posted on 11/16/2023 5:50:17 PM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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To: Mariner

“The neocons are more desperate than ever to link Ukraine with Israel.”

SICKENING. Helping Ukraine brings the world closer to nuclear war, ignoring Israel does the opposite.


24 posted on 11/16/2023 5:51:32 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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“SICKENING. Helping Ukraine brings the world closer to nuclear war, ignoring Israel does the opposite.”

CORRECTION:

SICKENING. Helping Ukraine brings the world closer to nuclear war, HELPING Israel does the opposite (since they won’t have to nuke the terrorists).


25 posted on 11/16/2023 5:52:50 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: Mariner
Yahoo is leftist trash and finds other leftist trash to repost.

Why is yahoo your source of news?

26 posted on 11/16/2023 5:52:58 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Nateman

“The West did promise to protect Ukraine if it gave up its nuclear weapons.”

Ludicrous!

Bill Clinton gave his most sincere promise, back up by his signature lol

Not even the USA promised them jack sh!t.


27 posted on 11/16/2023 5:53:01 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Deaf Smith

“Why is yahoo your source of news? “

Why are you drinking whiskey and acting stupid in public?


28 posted on 11/16/2023 5:54:24 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

I can only hope we will drop Ukraine like a rock.


29 posted on 11/16/2023 5:55:25 PM PST by Captain Jack Aubrey (There's not a moment to lose.)
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To: Mariner

Another way of saying - “Americans are sick of corrupt US politicians laundering money through corrupt Ukrainian politicians!”


30 posted on 11/16/2023 5:59:44 PM PST by MMaschin (The difference between strategy and tactics!)
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To: Mariner

We did, us and the UK guaranteed Ukrainian sovereignty if they gave up the former USSR nuclear weapons. More fool they, they believed us & Uk and gave them up!


31 posted on 11/16/2023 6:00:11 PM PST by Reily (!!)
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To: Mariner
I asked you a fair question and you go on a attack like the left does in same situation.

I made my point that your link is leftist trash and you are not able to backup or justify your source.

32 posted on 11/16/2023 6:01:02 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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Ludicrous!

It was Ukraine that made the mistake. They should have never given up their nukes. It is because nuclear war is so terrible that no country with them has to worry about any invasion.

Of course the bad guys still want to rule the Earth so using germ warfare covertly to steal elections and install their puppets is entirely possible.

33 posted on 11/16/2023 6:01:19 PM PST by Nateman (If the Pedo Profit Mad Moe (pig pee upon him!) was not the Antichrist then he comes in second.)
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To: Mariner

Isn’t that the truth.


34 posted on 11/16/2023 6:01:51 PM PST by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51; Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: Reily

The US government never even hinted it would guarantee Ukrainian sovereignty. Not even close.

There was not even a treaty PROPOSED to the US Senate.

Bill Clinton wrote and signed a letter to Ukraine on POTUS letterhead.

Not worth the paper it was printed on.


35 posted on 11/16/2023 6:03:26 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Mariner

NeoCons are
https://www.britannica.com/topic/neoconservatism.
They aren’t Democrat war mongers.
Ukraine is a European problem.
We, the USA spent a lot of money to see what the Russians can do,can’t do,and wore them down. That was worth it.
But now we now know that NATO is more than able to take on Russia and doesn’t need us anymore.
That is priceless. Quit full funding NATO and the UN. They can all do fine without the USA.
No more money to the crooks in Ukraine, but sell them weapons and ammo.
Israel has business to do and we should continue to support them with weapons and ammo. They can do the rest.


36 posted on 11/16/2023 6:05:39 PM PST by rellic
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“I made my point that your link is leftist trash and you are not able to backup or justify your source. “

No, I made the point that only stupid people like yourself, especially those with mental illness, care that it’s a Yahoo link.

Yahoo, where you can get news from the NY Post, Breitbart, The New American and MULTIPLE other conservative sources.

Of course stupid people do not know that. Or care.

They want to emote like little 12 year old girls.


37 posted on 11/16/2023 6:07:42 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Deaf Smith

So what? It says The Telegraph via Yahoo.

Lots of leftwing sources get posted here anymore.


38 posted on 11/16/2023 6:08:26 PM PST by dforest
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To: Mariner
Again, you are attacking to justify your position (not that there is any) in linking to yahoo.

The Drudge Report used to be a source of news, then it went left.

Your precious yahoo has been left even longer.

39 posted on 11/16/2023 6:17:50 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

“ Y’ll say “neocon” like it was a bad thing. When y’all don’t even know what “neocons” stood for.”

98% of the people that use the term have no clue what it means. Including Tucker Carlson.


40 posted on 11/16/2023 6:18:47 PM PST by Gary from Dayton (Scary unvaccinated American )
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