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Have to cede some territory ? Yeah, how about everything East of the Dniepner? It is mostly ethnic Russian, they hate them anyway.

The Fat Lady is beginning to sing, and it ain’t Glory to Ukraine.

1 posted on 12/11/2023 4:51:35 PM PST by delta7
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How does an American congress critter get to dictate Ukraine’s policy on its defense? And coming from a “Conservative” who rehjects the U.N. or any foreign country dictating U.S. defense policy that’s pretty rich.


2 posted on 12/11/2023 4:54:50 PM PST by Wuli
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3 posted on 12/11/2023 4:55:01 PM PST by griswold3 (Truth, Beauty and Goodness. )
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Recognition of REALITY.

NO MORE AMERICAN TAXPAYER MONEY TO UKRAINE!


4 posted on 12/11/2023 4:56:54 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAo p)
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I’d like to cede a half-dozen Zeepers.


5 posted on 12/11/2023 4:57:43 PM PST by JonPreston ( ✌ ☮️ )
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Take the “L” and beg for terms… the longer they pretend the more land they lose. At this rate Odessa will fall next.


6 posted on 12/11/2023 4:57:54 PM PST by CapandBall
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What a snivveling wussy for a Senator, Ukraine can WIN, just Sponsor Legislation Conscripting the Blood Relative between the age of 17-35 Of Every current and former Federal Employee under the Executive branch, give them 2 weeks training and send them Straight to the Front Lines in Ukraine. The WAR will end almost immediately.


7 posted on 12/11/2023 4:58:22 PM PST by eyeamok
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The war should never have happened and now the Ukraine is destroyed and will probably never recover.


9 posted on 12/11/2023 5:01:18 PM PST by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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Little Vloddy is angered.


12 posted on 12/11/2023 5:05:05 PM PST by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Ukraine should have done that 2 years ago and saved alot of Ukrainian lives.


14 posted on 12/11/2023 5:12:18 PM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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The left will fight for globohomo to the last Ukrainian.


15 posted on 12/11/2023 5:12:58 PM PST by nonliberal (Z.)
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Why would Russia stop fighting? Give them land. then when they attack Poland, just give them more land, they attack Latvia, give them more land, they attack Germany, give them more land, they attack Mexico, give them more land... Where does it stop.

It should stop before attacking a NATO country because then we will have to send troops and $Billions. So stop them in Ukraine to save our soldiers.


29 posted on 12/11/2023 5:26:34 PM PST by POGO163
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I believe this was part of the Great Reset.
Obama wanted to give Iran enriched uranium and Putin wanted the corridor to the black sea


30 posted on 12/11/2023 5:27:44 PM PST by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism .)
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“J.D. Vance says Ukraine will have to ‘cede some territory’”

The amount of territory Ukraine is forced to cede is directly proportional to how much foreign aid they receive.


31 posted on 12/11/2023 5:31:07 PM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart, I just don't tell anyone)
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33 posted on 12/11/2023 5:44:05 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I didn't come here to guide lambs, but to awaken lions 🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️)
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Donbas


34 posted on 12/11/2023 5:44:26 PM PST by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING OF AMERICA! DEATH TO MARXISM AND LEFTISM! AMERICA, COWBOY UP!)
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Is Vance going to invade to enforce this?


45 posted on 12/11/2023 6:06:15 PM PST by nickcarraway
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The only saving grace to this entire goat rope is that Putin does not want all of Ukraine - just a slice.

The terms of surrender will be hard to swallow after all the death and destruction since they will much more severe that the terms two weeks into the conflict over a year ago but at least the Ukraine will probably not be over run.


47 posted on 12/11/2023 6:07:05 PM PST by rdcbn1
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Zelenskyy has decided to offer Ohio to Russia. That should make Senator Vance happy.


52 posted on 12/11/2023 7:27:49 PM PST by devere
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They won’t. And the crease fire is meaning to be another Minsk style ruse.

Merkel literally said it was was is nothing but a chance to build up forces. It was a lie and a scam. Just like negotiations now for a cease-fire are designed to take the pressure off Ukraine, and turn it into what they call a frozen conflict like Korea. Ukraine will not relinquish their dubious claim to Crimea and the Donbass. But they are on the ropes right now.

The scam now is to get a cease-fire, then without risk, NATO led by us and the Brits, intends to flood Ukraine with all the military equipment we can get, fighter squadrons, as many missiles as we can buy from Raytheon, ammo, tracks etc. Then we will conclude a NATO-lite defense pact with Ukraine, if not outright membership. We would flood the country with advisors and trainers...after all, there is no conflict at that point, right? That will make any Russian attack on building nazi forces as an attack on NATO.

But we will not end the sanctions or return the cash, bullion, or looted yachts and real estate. We will not rebuild and restart Nordstream. Also, even if Ukraine agrees to a cease fire, they will keep up with the SBU terror attacks and assassinations and everyone knows it.

It is in the Russian interest to keep shooting.


54 posted on 12/11/2023 7:46:07 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up.)
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One square inch is too much.


56 posted on 12/11/2023 8:03:26 PM PST by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless clues that He does, indeed, exist .)
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